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    WAN Interface IP address - noob config question

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    • Z
      zzkazu
      last edited by

      My setup is

      -- DSL modem (bridged)
      -- Netgear router PPPoE connection
      -- APU2 Pfsense box
      -- TL-SG108PE switch

      WAN interface DHCP
      LAN interface with static IP.

      For some reason the WAN and LAN get assigned the same IP address (the static LAN IP address). Must be screwing something up..

      Any help appreciated.

      thanks

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      • chpalmerC
        chpalmer
        last edited by

        pfsense comes default with 192.168.1.1/24 this is not assigned by your other router. You can change it.

        Choose something like 192.168.10.1/24 Remember that you have to adjust your DHCP server to match.

        Triggering snowflakes one by one..
        Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

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        • Z
          zzkazu
          last edited by

          Thanks for your response.

          I changed it to 192.168.5.109, which is within the range of my router (still using this atm), but the WAN IP address gets set to whatever I change the LAN static IP address too.

          Cant workout why this is happening as the APU2 has individual NICs (WAN/LAN) and I would have thought router DCHP server should assign separate IP's

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          • Z
            zzkazu @zzkazu
            last edited by

            @zzkazu Managed to set separate IP's via console and seems to be sticking. No access to internet though for devices connected to LAN interface atm.

            Assume firewall rules..

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            • chpalmerC
              chpalmer @zzkazu
              last edited by chpalmer

              @zzkazu

              Check your client IP.

              Firewall rules for LAN should say "LAN Net" which would work fine.

              If your WAN keeps grabbing the wrong IP Im inclined to believe it has a path from the LAN side somehow. How do you have things wired?

              Triggering snowflakes one by one..
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                zzkazu
                last edited by zzkazu

                Heres the rules I'm using.

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                WAN on igb2
                LAN igb1

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                • JKnottJ
                  JKnott @zzkazu
                  last edited by

                  @zzkazu said in WAN Interface IP address - noob config question:

                  My setup is

                  Why do you have a Netgear router and pfSense? That's 2 routers and double NAT.

                  PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                  i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                  UniFi AC-Lite access point

                  I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                  • bmeeksB
                    bmeeks
                    last edited by

                    The WAN and LAN are within the same subnet according to the screen shot in the last post by the OP. You can't have WAN and LAN in the same subnet. You are showing both of them in the 192.168.5.0 network. The WAN is 192.168.5.109 and the LAN is 192.168.5.110. That can't work!

                    Draw a simple diagram of how you have things connected and post back.

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                    • NogBadTheBadN
                      NogBadTheBad @JKnott
                      last edited by NogBadTheBad

                      @JKnott said in WAN Interface IP address - noob config question:

                      @zzkazu said in WAN Interface IP address - noob config question:

                      My setup is

                      Why do you have a Netgear router and pfSense? That's 2 routers and double NAT.

                      This ^^

                      Set the pfSense WAN interface to PPPOE and remove the Netgear.

                      Andy

                      1 x Netgate SG-4860 - 3 x Linksys LGS308P - 1 x Aruba InstantOn AP22

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                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                        last edited by

                        You can double nat if you need too - but you can not have the same network on pfsense wan as you do its lan and expect it to route correctly.

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                        • Z
                          zzkazu
                          last edited by zzkazu

                          Thanks for the advice. I have tried a PPPoE configuration.

                          DSL Modem "Bridged" to
                          APU2 WAN interface
                          APU2 LAN interface to
                          L-SG108PE switch

                          WAN interface set to PPPoE
                          LAN Static IP

                          On LAN side still cant ping out publicly.

                          DCHP service running and allocating leases
                          No FW rules running on WAN

                          Pfsense PPPoE.JPG

                          Firewall rules.JPG

                          Ping Interface Test.JPG

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                          • NogBadTheBadN
                            NogBadTheBad
                            last edited by

                            Try killing the firewall states.

                            Andy

                            1 x Netgate SG-4860 - 3 x Linksys LGS308P - 1 x Aruba InstantOn AP22

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                            • johnpozJ
                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                              last edited by

                              And what are you outbound nat rules?

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                              • Z
                                zzkazu
                                last edited by

                                Automatic outbound NAT rule generation.

                                Is that sufficient?

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                                • johnpozJ
                                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                  last edited by johnpoz

                                  let see it please
                                  If you can ping from your public wan, but not from your lan - points to outbound nat not being correct.

                                  I would sniff on your wan while your doing your ping from lan test.. Do you see the ping go out with your actual wan IP?

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                                  • stephenw10S
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                    last edited by stephenw10

                                    Check the state table size on the dashboard also. Something breaking the ruleset can present like this but you would see 0 open states in that case. You have some rules showing open states so it's probably not that. Worth checking though.

                                    Check you have a default route in Diag > Routes.

                                    Steve

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                                    • Z
                                      zzkazu
                                      last edited by zzkazu

                                      Thanks for the help here, learning lots.

                                      Still can ping and resolve via WAN but not LAN

                                      Only taking a guess but LAN active states seem closed, could that be the issue? I have reset states a couple of times.

                                      using Packet capture (WAN side) cant see any private IP addresses...

                                      thanks

                                      Outbound NAT

                                      NAT outbound.JPG

                                      Diag Routes.JPG

                                      Active States.JPG

                                      Packet Capture.JPG

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                                      • johnpozJ
                                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                        last edited by johnpoz

                                        Where is your default route?

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                                        That looks like your wan pinging your gateway.. But I see no default route in your routing table.. So if your client pings 8.8.8.8 why would it get routed out your internet?

                                        Lets see your gateways

                                        gateways.png

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                                        • Z
                                          zzkazu
                                          last edited by zzkazu

                                          Default gateway IPv4 was set to automatic. Setting it to WAN_PPPOE seems to have allowed me to ping public via LAN now..

                                          Seems a bit strange noting I have only one Gateway PPPoE.. ... cheers saved further headaches for me

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                                          • johnpozJ
                                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                            last edited by

                                            I have seen a bit of strangeness with the automatic gateway selection.. Maybe your pppoe connection is taking awhile to come up.. Not sure.. I don't use those types of connection, and never a lot of experience even with them with pfsense..

                                            We can see if anyone else with more info on the details of how the automatic selection is suppose to work, and how pppoe might come into play with that, etc.

                                            Glad we finally got it sorted! ;)

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