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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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      ~35W peak at boot then ~26W once booted and idle according to my plugin power meter.

      Steve

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        Scorch95 @stephenw10
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        @stephenw10
        Thank you!

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          moppa
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          Can anyone suggest a compatible replacement PSU? Can't find the exact model and similar FSP ones on ebay dont have the 8 pin motherboard connector.

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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            You can get a 4pin to 8pin P4 adapter. Or you may not even need all 8 pins connected. There is no PCIe card in the M400 by default. I have not tried either personally.

            Steve

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              moppa @stephenw10
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              @stephenw10 brilliant, never thought of an adapter. Thanks!

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                moppa
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                Just a bit of info which might help someone - this M400 happily took 2x 4Gb sticks of desktop RAM (Non ECC).

                It was Hynix DDR3-1600 PC3-12800 (HP Branded - from an old PC a neighbour gave me to dispose of. Now wishing i hadn't sold the CPU!)

                Hynix Part No HMT351U6CFR8C-PB

                PS - if anyone needs an original 4 Gb ECC stick, let me know. (UK Ideally)

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                  iJay-XTM5 @zanthos
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                  I wasn't able to get my M400 to boot successfully with a Xeon E3-1220l v3 CPU. I can hear 4 single beeps in quick succession during the boot process and then nothing past that point. Fans continue to run at full speed. I'm not sure if the CPU is bad or incompatible with my setup. I tried clearing the CMOS but that didn't help.
                  At this point I have reinstalled the Celeron and the box's back to where it was previously. Any suggestions on trouble shooting the box would be greatly appreciated. BTW, intel documentation indicate the C226 chipset is supposed to be compatible with the Xeon.
                  Thanks

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                  • chpalmerC
                    chpalmer
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                    From Google..

                    "Four short beeps means that the motherboard timer is not working properly but it could also mean that there's an issue with the RAM module that's in the lowest (usually marked 0) slot. Usually, a hardware failure with an expansion card or an issue with the motherboard itself could be the cause of this beep code."

                    I suppose that could have to do with the CPU but check your RAM.

                    Triggering snowflakes one by one..
                    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

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                      iJay-XTM5 @chpalmer
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                      @chpalmer Thanks for that information, I did try reseating the RAM but it did not help. The same RAM works fine with the Celeron, so it appears the Xeon may be faulty or at least incompatible with the motherboard.

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                      • chpalmerC
                        chpalmer
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                        I had a couple M400's in hand and put pfsense on them for some friends. I didn't get to tinker however.

                        Triggering snowflakes one by one..
                        Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                          That Xeon has no graphics hardware. Might be an issue since the E3-1285 v3 is reported as working. Speculation at this point though.

                          Edit: Missed that this is the 1220L. Yeah that might require something a bit extra for it's very low speed and power.

                          Steve

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                            zanthos @iJay-XTM5
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                            @iJay-XTM5 Maybe Steve @stephenw10 is right about the missing gfx hardware.
                            You could try to disable it in the BIOS before swapping CPU's (Headless mode, no RAM assignment, ...).
                            At least in my unlocked BIOS I remember there should be an option to do so...

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                              iJay-XTM5 @stephenw10
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                              @stephenw10 said in Watchguard Firebox M400:

                              That Xeon has no graphics hardware. Might be an issue since the E3-1285 v3 is reported as working. Speculation at this point though.

                              Edit: Missed that this is the 1220L. Yeah that might require something a bit extra for it's very low speed and power.

                              Steve

                              My apologies if I am not supposed to post links to an external site. Per this website -> https://www.thomas-krenn.com/en/wiki/AMI_BIOS_Beep_Codes
                              4 short beeps are supposed to be one of the following:

                              1. Wrong memory installed (eg. Registered when unbuffered required, or Non-ECC when ECC required)
                              2. CPU not supported; update BIOS to support new CPU

                              I'll need to do a bit of digging to see if the RAM is incompatible. I am more inclined to believe #2 is more likely than #1. I'm going to request Lanner support for a copy of 7585's bios for now. Adding new CPU microcodes into the bios is beyond my capabilities so this may be the end of the road for this Xeon.

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                I guess it depends how 'short' they are. 😉
                                Is it the original ram? The board does not support buffered DIMMs.

                                I could well believe that ultra low power CPU requires a lower voltage than the board can provide though.

                                Steve

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                                  iJay-XTM5 @stephenw10
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                                  @stephenw10 Thanks for the additional information on the RAM. Unfortunately I did not time the beeps, but I estimate all 4 beeps used to take about 2 seconds.
                                  I'm going to be brave and see what it takes to update the microcode within the bios! ☺

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                                    cyril18 @DeLorean
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                                    @DeLorean
                                    hello, everyone, I'm new here. can someone tell me why we can WatchGuard m200 box for Pfsense? here is what I have found so far on m200 so far
                                    Watchguard m200.PNG

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                                      DeLorean @cyril18
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                                      @cyril18

                                      You mention M200, but the specs are from the M270 model.
                                      The M200 from Watchguard can't be used for pfSense, I have tried this.
                                      The M200 has no mSata slot, but a SD memorycard slot with a 8Gb SD card and no other option to expand the storage,
                                      and use a U-loader from Watchguard to load the OS.
                                      The only thing that was changeable on this model was the Ram memory.
                                      The M200 use a Freescale T1042 CPU , while the M270 use a Intel Atom C (formerly known as Denverton) cpu.

                                      Grtz
                                      DeLorean

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                                      • chpalmerC
                                        chpalmer
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                                        Hey DeLorean.. Good to see ya.

                                        Triggering snowflakes one by one..
                                        Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

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                                        • stephenw10S
                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                          Yeah. M270 => probably quite easy to load and run pfSense, though I'm not sure anyone has tried. M200 => no chance!

                                          Steve

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                                            zanthos @iJay-XTM5
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                                            @iJay-XTM5 said in Watchguard Firebox M400:

                                            I'm going to be brave and see what it takes to update the microcode within the bios! ☺

                                            Maybe You Need to add microcode to the BIOS.
                                            The original BIOS (Ver. WD0 10/08/2014) contains microcode for the following CPU ID's:

                                            • 06C3 (Date: 2013/08/16)
                                            • 06C2 (Date: 2012/10/17)
                                            • 06C1 (Date: 2012/06/14)

                                            If your XEON CPU has another ID it will probably not work. Then you need to add the missing microcode.

                                            If you just want to update the existing microcode, google for "UBU" and "BIOS". Check the link in Win-Raid Forum. This tool is simple to use and let's you update the microcode easily.
                                            I think you can also use it to add microcode, but I haven't done that.
                                            Another method you find here: http://wp.xin.at/archives/4397

                                            BTW: you could try to flash my BIOS with an updated Microcode for CPU ID 06C3 from 2018/04/02. See Watchguard Firebox M400

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