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    What is the difference between pfsense netgate appliance ( software base ) and pfsense open source install on your PC

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    • RicoR Offline
      Rico LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance
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      3x SG-5100 😍

      -Rico

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      • kiokomanK Offline
        kiokoman LAYER 8
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        yeah if budget is not a problem i will go with 3 x SG-5100 myself 😂

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        • stephenw10S Offline
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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          What bandwidth do you have available at each site? What bandwidth do you need between sites?

          Steve

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          • GertjanG Offline
            Gertjan
            last edited by Gertjan

            ..... exact. If the bandwidth is far less then 1 Gbs, a SG-1100 will do.
            Edit : for the 2 branches offices.

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            Edit : and where are the logs ??

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            • kiokomanK Offline
              kiokoman LAYER 8
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              uhm it could become a bottleneck with only 1gb ram, personally i would suggest the sg-1100 only for home or small environment where there is no need for extra packages
              plus the sg-3100 have four-port 1 gbps Marvell 88E6141 switch, uplinked at 2.5 gbps
              if you think that the business can grow in time (and we hope so) it would be more efficient to buy at least the sg-3100
              better to have more than less, but this is only my 2 cents

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                chinoynoy @stephenw10
                last edited by chinoynoy

                @stephenw10 we have fiber optic connection with 50Mbps in the main office and 20Mbps each for the 2 branches

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                  chinoynoy @kiokoman
                  last edited by chinoynoy

                  @kiokoman sg 3100 for 2 branches and sg 5100 for the main office is a good idea. Thanks bro. But i would like to here also what @stephenw10 steve suggestion 😁

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                    chinoynoy @kiokoman
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                    @kiokoman you mention the RAM. if i will build a pc for my pfsense, what specs do you suggest? Thanks

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                    • kiokomanK Offline
                      kiokoman LAYER 8
                      last edited by kiokoman

                      personally i'm in love with netgate products, we are talking about freebsd here, compatibility and stability are important, you won't be able to build yourself something better with less money then the sg3100/sg5100 , any i3 / i5 can do what you want, even older pc but do you realy want to use something unreliable/you don't know if it's 100% compatible to your business? power consumption and warranty is also something to take in mind if it's on 24/24/365
                      It could be only my perception but if you take a look at the forum people have alot more trouble (that could be easily fixable or not) from VM or assembled machine vs netgate product

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                      • JKnottJ Offline
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                        @kiokoman said in What is the difference between pfsense netgate appliance ( software base ) and pfsense open source install on your PC:

                        you won't be able to build yourself something better with less money then the sg3100/sg5100

                        What about the J1900? They appear to be cheaper than the SG3100.

                        PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                        i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                        UniFi AC-Lite access point

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                        • kiokomanK Offline
                          kiokoman LAYER 8
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                          if you think that building something based on the j1900 is better
                          to me they fall to something unreliable/you don't know if it's 100% compatible
                          there are also that famous chinese crap that they sell on amazon if you want to spend less money
                          personally i will never put something not officially supported in a business environment if i can avoid it and if i don't have the time to track down possible problem/incompatibility. but if people like to be a guinea pig .. be my guest. i have nothing more to add, i won't start a flame a la playstation vs xbox. let him decide what is best for his business based on what @stephenw10 will officially suggest

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                            chinoynoy @kiokoman
                            last edited by chinoynoy

                            @kiokoman i completely agree with you. I want the sg 3100 and 5100. Thank you so much bro. But i want also to hear what @stephenw10 thinks, or suggest.

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                            • stephenw10S Offline
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                              For a 20Mbps connection with 4 computers behind it the SG-1100 is ideal. It can easily do 20Mbps of VPN traffic assuming the connection latency and packet size etc will allow it.
                              You could probably also use that at the main office but I would probably go to an SG-3100 there to be safe or if you ever wanted to use additional packages.
                              The SG-5100 is probably overkill at any of those locations unless you think the available connection bandwidth will increase any time soon.

                              Steve

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                                JKnott @kiokoman
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                                @kiokoman said in What is the difference between pfsense netgate appliance ( software base ) and pfsense open source install on your PC:

                                if you think that building something based on the j1900 is better
                                to me they fall to something unreliable/you don't know if it's 100% compatible

                                They run PC software, just like the refurb HP desktop I'm using now.

                                PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                                i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                                UniFi AC-Lite access point

                                I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                                • JKnottJ Offline
                                  JKnott @stephenw10
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                                  @stephenw10 said in What is the difference between pfsense netgate appliance ( software base ) and pfsense open source install on your PC:

                                  For a 20Mbps connection with 4 computers behind it the SG-1100 is ideal.

                                  20 Mb is getting a tad slow these days. My own connection is 75 Mb (actually over 90) and a friend has 300.

                                  PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                                  i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                                  UniFi AC-Lite access point

                                  I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                                    chinoynoy @stephenw10
                                    last edited by chinoynoy

                                    @stephenw10 i like overkill 😁 i will go for 3100 and 5100 for the main office. I am also considering upgrading our bandwidth. What do you suggest for a stable vpn connections, or is my current bandwidth are enough?

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