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    Netgate SG-3100 LAN ports cannot go through LAN Gateway.

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      mmajian @stephenw10
      last edited by

      @stephenw10 Yes, the switch settings for SG-3100 are their defaults. And no I can't ping Windows host from pfSense (connection timed out.)

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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        Hmm, sure behaves like a subnet conflict, like there is something else there responding as 192.168.1.1. If that was the case I would expect to see a load of errors in the system log though.

        Try running a packet capture on the LAN from Diag > Packet capture whilst pinging from the Windows host. Do you see the pings arriving?

        Steve

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          mmajian @stephenw10
          last edited by

          @stephenw10 I also did try to change IP address for LAN to 192.168.10.1. And Windows computer get correct IP from DHCP 192.168.10.100. But still can't ping LAN.
          I will try to run packet capture on Monday and see what will happen. Thank you so much.

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            mmajian
            last edited by

            I also found a very strange thing that when I connect Win10 computer to WirelessNetwork port, it gets correct IP address and gateway
            af8b64b5-7cac-4795-a129-a34377eee2c1-image.png
            But it also can ping LAN 192.168.1.1
            86bf2a30-449f-4f13-ab04-782463ae1bb3-image.png
            Even I have this rule in WirelessNetwork
            481dfcf1-cc5a-4413-ad3d-657b67e898e0-image.png
            Also when I tried to get route from 192.168.30.52 to 192.168.1.1 in Win10 computer
            290bbb19-b302-46d7-bcef-00fd9f073cc0-image.png
            It seems like it access 192.168.1.1 directly not through it's gateway 192.168.30.1
            Can anyone help to explain these weird phenomenon? Maybe by fixing this will fix the LAN ports can't reach LAN gateway problem. Thanks.

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            • DerelictD
              Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
              last edited by

              Not necessarily.

              192.168.1.1 is still only one hop away since that address exists on the same hop you reach at 192.168.30.1. It is free to respond to a traceroute using that address.

              Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
              A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
              DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
              Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                mmajian @Derelict
                last edited by

                @Derelict Thank you very much for trace-route. But why can I ping 192.168.1.1 from WirelessNetwork. I think anything from WirelessNetwork net to LAN net should be blocked by default.

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                • DerelictD
                  Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                  last edited by

                  Well, if you want to BLOCK traffic on from Wireless network to LAN net then BLOCK it. Don't block traffic with a pass rule.

                  Add a rule above what you have that blocks traffic to destination LAN net above what you have and see if the behavior changes.

                  Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                  A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                  DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                  Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                    mmajian @Derelict
                    last edited by

                    @Derelict Great, thank you. I created a BLOCK rule and it's working.
                    Now I am backing LAN ports can't reach LAN gateway problem. Looks like fixing problems with WirelessNetwork doesn't fix LAN net. 😞

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                      mmajian @stephenw10
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                      @stephenw10 I connect one of the Win10 computer to LAN1 port and Switch setting is here:

                      aec0ce2b-b734-4276-af03-1f1a2eff37a4-image.png

                      It's getting correct IP address from LAN DHCP 192.168.1.115, but is't offline
                      2bcf2e02-11c1-40a7-888b-dbdf8aab579a-image.png

                      I started Packet capture on LAN interface for IPv4 only.
                      13107108-2369-4f78-a4be-7c3e519c7064-image.png
                      Looks like LAN can receive from Win10 computer but never reply.

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                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                        last edited by

                        Ok that is good info, now lets see your actual switch config.

                        An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools
                        If you get confused: Listen to the Music Play
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                          mmajian @johnpoz
                          last edited by

                          @johnpoz Sorry I am new to pfSense. What is actual switch config and how to view it? Thanks.

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                          • DerelictD
                            Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate @mmajian
                            last edited by

                            @mmajian said in Netgate SG-3100 LAN ports cannot go through LAN Gateway.:

                            @Derelict Great, thank you. I created a BLOCK rule and it's working.
                            Now I am backing LAN ports can't reach LAN gateway problem. Looks like fixing problems with WirelessNetwork doesn't fix LAN net. 😞

                            Yet another victim.

                            Someday people will listen.

                            Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                            A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                            DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                            Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                            • johnpozJ
                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                              last edited by johnpoz

                              See that tab you showing the ports - hit the vlan tab.. lets make sure nothing messed up there

                              switchports.jpg

                              That is the default settings, from one of my 3100s

                              You don't have any rules in in your floating tab do you? And for good measure lets see the routes.. under diag..

                              An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools
                              If you get confused: Listen to the Music Play
                              Please don't Chat/PM me for help, unless mod related
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                                mmajian @johnpoz
                                last edited by

                                @johnpoz Yes, my VLANs setting are same as yours. And I don't have rules in floating tab. And here is the routes:
                                fb392cfa-3674-4b88-8fe9-df6415920afd-image.png

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                                • johnpozJ
                                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                  last edited by johnpoz

                                  Have you tried reloading the firewall rules? Or I take it you have tried rebooting it? ;)
                                  Try changing the IP to say 192.168.2.1/24 on the lan interface?

                                  Everything looks right..

                                  Are you seeing any errors on the interface, in the interface status?

                                  
                                  LAN Interface (lan, igb0)
                                  
                                  Status
                                      up
                                  MAC Address
                                      00:08:a2:0c:e6:24 - ADI Engineering
                                  IPv4 Address
                                      192.168.9.253
                                  Subnet mask IPv4
                                      255.255.255.0
                                  IPv6 Link Local
                                      fe80::208:a2ff:fe0c:e624%igb0
                                  IPv6 Address
                                      2001:470:snipped::253
                                  Subnet mask IPv6
                                      64
                                  MTU
                                      1500
                                  Media
                                      1000baseT <full-duplex>
                                  In/out packets
                                      461831409/992950006 (321.12 GiB/1.27 TiB)
                                  In/out packets (pass)
                                      461831409/992950006 (321.12 GiB/1.27 TiB)
                                  In/out packets (block)
                                      8743/0 (506 KiB/0 B)
                                  In/out errors
                                      0/0
                                  Collisions
                                      0	
                                  

                                  You tried a different port?

                                  An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools
                                  If you get confused: Listen to the Music Play
                                  Please don't Chat/PM me for help, unless mod related
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                                  • stephenw10S
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                    last edited by

                                    Looks like you have pfBlocker installed. Let's see the floating firewall rules. You maybe need to edit them to see all the info.

                                    That can block and not log traffic in LAN if it;s not configured correctly.

                                    Steve

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                                    • johnpozJ
                                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                      last edited by johnpoz

                                      He stated he has no rules on floating.

                                      You didn't setup any port forward rules did you?

                                      I would like to see the full output of the rules to be honest
                                      https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/firewall/viewing-the-full-pf-ruleset.html

                                      An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools
                                      If you get confused: Listen to the Music Play
                                      Please don't Chat/PM me for help, unless mod related
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                                        mmajian @johnpoz
                                        last edited by mmajian

                                        @johnpoz No, zero errors on LAN interface and I did tried different ports. And I did tried change LAN IP to 192.168.10.1/24, still not working.

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                                          mmajian @stephenw10
                                          last edited by

                                          @stephenw10 I disabled pfBlocker but no luck.

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                                            mmajian @johnpoz
                                            last edited by mmajian

                                            @johnpoz No port forward rules. No errors on LAN interface:
                                            d4428f71-7dc0-444e-8956-73bbe32f292f-image.png
                                            Here are all rules
                                            a756b796-d83e-44b7-8552-0b77bf3730aa-image.png
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