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Netgate SG-3100 LAN ports cannot go through LAN Gateway.

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    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
    last edited by Oct 13, 2019, 6:09 PM

    Hmm, sure behaves like a subnet conflict, like there is something else there responding as 192.168.1.1. If that was the case I would expect to see a load of errors in the system log though.

    Try running a packet capture on the LAN from Diag > Packet capture whilst pinging from the Windows host. Do you see the pings arriving?

    Steve

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      mmajian @stephenw10
      last edited by Oct 13, 2019, 6:17 PM

      @stephenw10 I also did try to change IP address for LAN to 192.168.10.1. And Windows computer get correct IP from DHCP 192.168.10.100. But still can't ping LAN.
      I will try to run packet capture on Monday and see what will happen. Thank you so much.

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        mmajian
        last edited by Oct 14, 2019, 7:05 PM

        I also found a very strange thing that when I connect Win10 computer to WirelessNetwork port, it gets correct IP address and gateway
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        But it also can ping LAN 192.168.1.1
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        Even I have this rule in WirelessNetwork
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        Also when I tried to get route from 192.168.30.52 to 192.168.1.1 in Win10 computer
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        It seems like it access 192.168.1.1 directly not through it's gateway 192.168.30.1
        Can anyone help to explain these weird phenomenon? Maybe by fixing this will fix the LAN ports can't reach LAN gateway problem. Thanks.

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          Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
          last edited by Oct 14, 2019, 7:28 PM

          Not necessarily.

          192.168.1.1 is still only one hop away since that address exists on the same hop you reach at 192.168.30.1. It is free to respond to a traceroute using that address.

          Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
          A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
          DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
          Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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            mmajian @Derelict
            last edited by Oct 14, 2019, 7:46 PM

            @Derelict Thank you very much for trace-route. But why can I ping 192.168.1.1 from WirelessNetwork. I think anything from WirelessNetwork net to LAN net should be blocked by default.

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              Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
              last edited by Oct 14, 2019, 7:55 PM

              Well, if you want to BLOCK traffic on from Wireless network to LAN net then BLOCK it. Don't block traffic with a pass rule.

              Add a rule above what you have that blocks traffic to destination LAN net above what you have and see if the behavior changes.

              Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
              A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
              DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
              Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                mmajian @Derelict
                last edited by Oct 14, 2019, 8:21 PM

                @Derelict Great, thank you. I created a BLOCK rule and it's working.
                Now I am backing LAN ports can't reach LAN gateway problem. Looks like fixing problems with WirelessNetwork doesn't fix LAN net. 😞

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                  mmajian @stephenw10
                  last edited by Oct 14, 2019, 9:53 PM

                  @stephenw10 I connect one of the Win10 computer to LAN1 port and Switch setting is here:

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                  It's getting correct IP address from LAN DHCP 192.168.1.115, but is't offline
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                  I started Packet capture on LAN interface for IPv4 only.
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                  Looks like LAN can receive from Win10 computer but never reply.

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                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                    last edited by Oct 14, 2019, 10:40 PM

                    Ok that is good info, now lets see your actual switch config.

                    An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools
                    If you get confused: Listen to the Music Play
                    Please don't Chat/PM me for help, unless mod related
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                      mmajian @johnpoz
                      last edited by Oct 14, 2019, 10:50 PM

                      @johnpoz Sorry I am new to pfSense. What is actual switch config and how to view it? Thanks.

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                        Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate @mmajian
                        last edited by Oct 14, 2019, 11:30 PM

                        @mmajian said in Netgate SG-3100 LAN ports cannot go through LAN Gateway.:

                        @Derelict Great, thank you. I created a BLOCK rule and it's working.
                        Now I am backing LAN ports can't reach LAN gateway problem. Looks like fixing problems with WirelessNetwork doesn't fix LAN net. 😞

                        Yet another victim.

                        Someday people will listen.

                        Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                        A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                        DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                        Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                          last edited by johnpoz Oct 14, 2019, 11:39 PM Oct 14, 2019, 11:36 PM

                          See that tab you showing the ports - hit the vlan tab.. lets make sure nothing messed up there

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                          That is the default settings, from one of my 3100s

                          You don't have any rules in in your floating tab do you? And for good measure lets see the routes.. under diag..

                          An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools
                          If you get confused: Listen to the Music Play
                          Please don't Chat/PM me for help, unless mod related
                          SG-4860 24.11 | Lab VMs 2.7.2, 24.11

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                            mmajian @johnpoz
                            last edited by Oct 14, 2019, 11:55 PM

                            @johnpoz Yes, my VLANs setting are same as yours. And I don't have rules in floating tab. And here is the routes:
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                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                              last edited by johnpoz Oct 15, 2019, 12:28 AM Oct 15, 2019, 12:27 AM

                              Have you tried reloading the firewall rules? Or I take it you have tried rebooting it? ;)
                              Try changing the IP to say 192.168.2.1/24 on the lan interface?

                              Everything looks right..

                              Are you seeing any errors on the interface, in the interface status?

                              
                              LAN Interface (lan, igb0)
                              
                              Status
                                  up
                              MAC Address
                                  00:08:a2:0c:e6:24 - ADI Engineering
                              IPv4 Address
                                  192.168.9.253
                              Subnet mask IPv4
                                  255.255.255.0
                              IPv6 Link Local
                                  fe80::208:a2ff:fe0c:e624%igb0
                              IPv6 Address
                                  2001:470:snipped::253
                              Subnet mask IPv6
                                  64
                              MTU
                                  1500
                              Media
                                  1000baseT <full-duplex>
                              In/out packets
                                  461831409/992950006 (321.12 GiB/1.27 TiB)
                              In/out packets (pass)
                                  461831409/992950006 (321.12 GiB/1.27 TiB)
                              In/out packets (block)
                                  8743/0 (506 KiB/0 B)
                              In/out errors
                                  0/0
                              Collisions
                                  0	
                              

                              You tried a different port?

                              An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools
                              If you get confused: Listen to the Music Play
                              Please don't Chat/PM me for help, unless mod related
                              SG-4860 24.11 | Lab VMs 2.7.2, 24.11

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                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by Oct 15, 2019, 12:27 AM

                                Looks like you have pfBlocker installed. Let's see the floating firewall rules. You maybe need to edit them to see all the info.

                                That can block and not log traffic in LAN if it;s not configured correctly.

                                Steve

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                                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                  last edited by johnpoz Oct 15, 2019, 12:29 AM Oct 15, 2019, 12:28 AM

                                  He stated he has no rules on floating.

                                  You didn't setup any port forward rules did you?

                                  I would like to see the full output of the rules to be honest
                                  https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/firewall/viewing-the-full-pf-ruleset.html

                                  An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools
                                  If you get confused: Listen to the Music Play
                                  Please don't Chat/PM me for help, unless mod related
                                  SG-4860 24.11 | Lab VMs 2.7.2, 24.11

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                                    mmajian @johnpoz
                                    last edited by mmajian Oct 15, 2019, 12:36 AM Oct 15, 2019, 12:35 AM

                                    @johnpoz No, zero errors on LAN interface and I did tried different ports. And I did tried change LAN IP to 192.168.10.1/24, still not working.

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                                      mmajian @stephenw10
                                      last edited by Oct 15, 2019, 12:37 AM

                                      @stephenw10 I disabled pfBlocker but no luck.

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                                        mmajian @johnpoz
                                        last edited by mmajian Oct 15, 2019, 12:50 AM Oct 15, 2019, 12:45 AM

                                        @johnpoz No port forward rules. No errors on LAN interface:
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                                        Here are all rules
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                                          Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate @mmajian
                                          last edited by Derelict Oct 15, 2019, 3:46 AM Oct 15, 2019, 3:44 AM

                                          @mmajian said in Netgate SG-3100 LAN ports cannot go through LAN Gateway.:

                                          Yes, my VLANs setting are same as yours.

                                          Please post them.

                                          It's not rules (though it looks like you are still using a ! LAN net rule for some inexplicable reason.)

                                          Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                                          A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                          DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                                          Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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