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      kevindd992002 @Qinn
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      @Qinn said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

      I experienced something strange, after an update to bios 4.10.0.1 my internal network speeds were halved, so I went back to 4.10.0.0 and they were restored! Can anyone confirm this, as I cannot test it at the moment?

      So can anybody confirm this? I don't want to upgrade to the latest firmware if this is true.

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        Veldkornet @kevindd992002
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        @kevindd992002 said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

        @Qinn said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

        I experienced something strange, after an update to bios 4.10.0.1 my internal network speeds were halved, so I went back to 4.10.0.0 and they were restored! Can anyone confirm this, as I cannot test it at the moment?

        So can anybody confirm this? I don't want to upgrade to the latest firmware if this is true.

        I’m not having any problems with it.

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          soder @Qinn
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          @Qinn Yes, it is proper to issue the Halt system / Shutdown command, and the APU will turn itself off entirely (all LEDs go blank). But after that, how do you turn on the system again? As there is no power button to press, as you already clearly explained. So you will still need to unplug the power adapter, and re-connect after a couple of seconds.

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            fireodo @soder
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            @soder said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

            @Qinn As there is no power button to press, as you already clearly explained. So you will still need to unplug the power adapter, and re-connect after a couple of seconds.

            Indeed, you have to unplug/plug the Power-Jack - there is no other way! :-)

            Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
            SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
            pfsense 2.7.2 CE
            Packages: Apcupsd Cron Iftop Iperf LCDproc Nmap pfBlockerNG RRD_Summary Shellcmd Snort Speedtest System_Patches.

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              Qinn @soder
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              @soder Yes as @fireodo already has said, there is no other way to power up. After the Halt command did it's job and the APU is powered down (all led's, including the network interface led's, are down) you must unplug and then re-plug the power cord, to get the APU to power up.

              This way is the elegant way, opposite to pulling the plug when it's running, the latter could harm the filesystem.

              Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
              Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
              Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                Qinn @kevindd992002
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                @kevindd992002 said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                @Qinn said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                I experienced something strange, after an update to bios 4.10.0.1 my internal network speeds were halved, so I went back to 4.10.0.0 and they were restored! Can anyone confirm this, as I cannot test it at the moment?

                So can anybody confirm this? I don't want to upgrade to the latest firmware if this is true.

                Tested it vigorously and could not reconstruct the drop down in speed, so now (as you can see in my profile)I am running on version 4.10.0.1 ;), sorry for the inconvenience.

                Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                  kevindd992002 @Qinn
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                  @Qinn said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                  @kevindd992002 said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                  @Qinn said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                  I experienced something strange, after an update to bios 4.10.0.1 my internal network speeds were halved, so I went back to 4.10.0.0 and they were restored! Can anyone confirm this, as I cannot test it at the moment?

                  So can anybody confirm this? I don't want to upgrade to the latest firmware if this is true.

                  Tested it vigorously and could not reconstruct the drop down in speed, so now (as you can see in my profile)I am running on version 4.10.0.1 ;), sorry for the inconvenience.

                  You made me worried :)

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                    logan5247
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                    v4.10.0.2 is out. Has anyone tried it yet?
                    https://pcengines.github.io/#mr-27

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                      Veldkornet @logan5247
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                      @logan5247 said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                      v4.10.0.2 is out. Has anyone tried it yet?
                      https://pcengines.github.io/#mr-27

                      I have it running on 2 devices. No issues that I’m aware of.

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                        Qinn
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                        Running on v4.10.0.2 and also no issues.

                        Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                        Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                        Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                          fireodo @Qinn
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                          @Qinn said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                          Running on v4.10.0.2 and also no issues.

                          No issues is OK but any improvements?

                          Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
                          SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
                          pfsense 2.7.2 CE
                          Packages: Apcupsd Cron Iftop Iperf LCDproc Nmap pfBlockerNG RRD_Summary Shellcmd Snort Speedtest System_Patches.

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                            Qinn @fireodo
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                            @fireodo No not that "I" experienced. Most bios updates repair bugs or introduce updated SeaBIOS and
                            updated sortbootorder, but there are a few updates that surely matter, like the 4.0.25 version, which enabled Core Performance Boost feature. https://blog.3mdeb.com/2019/2019-02-14-enabling-cpb-on-pcengines-apu2/

                            Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                            Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                            Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                              kevindd992002
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                              What does the "watchdog" feature in the BIOS setup options of the APU2C4 really do? Do I need it enabled or what? Thanks.

                              Also, I just re-installed pfsense 2.4.4 p3 on my APU2C4 and for some reason the temperature sensors are not working again even though I have the correct module set:

                              ffce0bb9-7744-438e-b5da-d586d9b89798-image.png

                              I thought the support for these sensors was added since the release of 2.4? I didn't remember encountering this issue when I reinstalled in the past with lower versions of 2.4.

                              Reloading amdtemp.ko and doing a sysctl -a | grep temperature doesn't output anything.

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                                kevindd992002 @kevindd992002
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                                Anybody can help me out here?

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                                  daemonix
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                                  I don't think temp sensors work... I never had them working.

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                                    soder @kevindd992002
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                                    @kevindd992002 The watchdog feature does a hardware reboot, if the operating system has crashed or hung. It is ideal solution for remote locarion, where it is difficult to go in person and reboot the router by hand.
                                    How it works: The OS sends periodic healthcheck signals to the watchdog. If the OS does not report about its health in 2-3 minutes (the so called watchdog timeout, you can configure it yourself), the watchdog will think the OS has hung, and it reboots the motherboard. So be careful enabling it, if the OS does not support it properly, it can cause reboot loops.

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                                      kevindd992002 @daemonix
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                                      @daemonix said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                                      I don't think temp sensors work... I never had them working.

                                      Oh they do. Before pfsense 2.4, you had to download a customized amdtemp.ko, replace the one in pfsense, and unload/load the driver. Starting 2.4, they were natively supported by pfsense. Here's a proof of one running on my other pfsense box:

                                      4d1bbdc4-c79d-48d0-909d-f4e115bb2efc-image.png

                                      The only difference between that working box and this box, is that I updated this box to the latest apu2c4 BIOS which is v4.10.0.3. The working box is still v4.10.0.2 and that could be the issue but I hope someone else can confirm this.

                                      @soder said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                                      @kevindd992002 The watchdog feature does a hardware reboot, if the operating system has crashed or hung. It is ideal solution for remote locarion, where it is difficult to go in person and reboot the router by hand.
                                      How it works: The OS sends periodic healthcheck signals to the watchdog. If the OS does not report about its health in 2-3 minutes (the so called watchdog timeout, you can configure it yourself), the watchdog will think the OS has hung, and it reboots the motherboard. So be careful enabling it, if the OS does not support it properly, it can cause reboot loops.

                                      I see. Do you happen to know if pfsense supports it?

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                                        Veldkornet @kevindd992002
                                        last edited by Veldkornet

                                        @kevindd992002 said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                                        @daemonix said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                                        I don't think temp sensors work... I never had them working.

                                        Oh they do. Before pfsense 2.4, you had to download a customized amdtemp.ko, replace the one in pfsense, and unload/load the driver. Starting 2.4, they were natively supported by pfsense. Here's a proof of one running on my other pfsense box:

                                        4d1bbdc4-c79d-48d0-909d-f4e115bb2efc-image.png

                                        The only difference between that working box and this box, is that I updated this box to the latest apu2c4 BIOS which is v4.10.0.3. The working box is still v4.10.0.2 and that could be the issue but I hope someone else can confirm this.

                                        @soder said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                                        @kevindd992002 The watchdog feature does a hardware reboot, if the operating system has crashed or hung. It is ideal solution for remote locarion, where it is difficult to go in person and reboot the router by hand.
                                        How it works: The OS sends periodic healthcheck signals to the watchdog. If the OS does not report about its health in 2-3 minutes (the so called watchdog timeout, you can configure it yourself), the watchdog will think the OS has hung, and it reboots the motherboard. So be careful enabling it, if the OS does not support it properly, it can cause reboot loops.

                                        I see. Do you happen to know if pfsense supports it?

                                        Arg, I'm also on 4.10.0.3 and I don't see the temps anymore either. But indeed, they were always working. Made an issue.

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                                          kevindd992002 @Veldkornet
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                                          @Veldkornet said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                                          @kevindd992002 said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                                          @daemonix said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                                          I don't think temp sensors work... I never had them working.

                                          Oh they do. Before pfsense 2.4, you had to download a customized amdtemp.ko, replace the one in pfsense, and unload/load the driver. Starting 2.4, they were natively supported by pfsense. Here's a proof of one running on my other pfsense box:

                                          4d1bbdc4-c79d-48d0-909d-f4e115bb2efc-image.png

                                          The only difference between that working box and this box, is that I updated this box to the latest apu2c4 BIOS which is v4.10.0.3. The working box is still v4.10.0.2 and that could be the issue but I hope someone else can confirm this.

                                          @soder said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                                          @kevindd992002 The watchdog feature does a hardware reboot, if the operating system has crashed or hung. It is ideal solution for remote locarion, where it is difficult to go in person and reboot the router by hand.
                                          How it works: The OS sends periodic healthcheck signals to the watchdog. If the OS does not report about its health in 2-3 minutes (the so called watchdog timeout, you can configure it yourself), the watchdog will think the OS has hung, and it reboots the motherboard. So be careful enabling it, if the OS does not support it properly, it can cause reboot loops.

                                          I see. Do you happen to know if pfsense supports it?

                                          Arg, I'm also on 4.10.0.3 and I don't see the temps anymore either. But indeed, they were always working. Made an issue.

                                          Thanks for confirming and making a github issue!

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                                            Qinn @kevindd992002
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                                            For now staying on 4.10.0.2

                                            Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                                            Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                                            Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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