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    IPV6 - pfsense behind BT Hub

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    • JKnottJ
      JKnott @Jid
      last edited by JKnott

      @Jid said in IPV6 - pfsense behind BT Hub:

      @stephenw10

      Yes exactly ,but i was expecting the BT hub to give Pfsence an ip in the 2a0X:xxxx:xxxx:xx00:: /64 but it wasnt but gave it a fe80:: ?? will try to keep this as fe80:: and then use the /64 from the BT wan range in the LAN ,BUT that will still pose the issue of the BT box knowing how to get to this /64.

      If that modem is in gateway mode, you can't put pfSense behind it and expect it to work properly. The pfSense WAN interface should get an address, but no prefix for the LAN. Every IPv6 capable device will have a link local fe80 address, no matter what it's connected to. That does not come from the ISP. It's often derived from the MAC address.

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        Jid @JKnott
        last edited by Jid

        @JKnott
        "With it in gateway mode, only devices connected directly to it will get an address". That is the case here .
        The Probem is HOW do I get Devices on LAN side of Pfsense(connected directly to BT hub) to be able to route out in ipv6.

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          Jid @stephenw10
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          @stephenw10

          Yes they do in the 2a0X:xxxx:xxxx:xx00:: range, however in the pfsense WAN(directly connected to LAN of BT Hub) its showing in the fe80:: range.

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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            Some sort of route on the BT Hub, static or added via a PD.

            Or put the hub in modem mode and just use pfSense directly.

            I know the Business hub used to do something funky with static IPv4 subnets though that caused problems with that.

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
              last edited by stephenw10

              What is the pfSense WAN set to for IPv6? Or what was it set to before you set it statically?

              If dhcpv6 doesn't work try SLAAC.

              Steve

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                Jid @stephenw10
                last edited by

                @stephenw10
                DHCPV6 it gets fe80:: range , Static applied 2a0X:xxxx:xxxx:xx00:: /64 to match the 2a0X:xxxx:xxxx:xx00:: on the BT hub.

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                  Jid @Jid
                  last edited by

                  @stephenw10
                  Just tried SLAAC and getting this fdaa:bbcc:ddee:0:215: is that good.
                  But i cant access any Node to test now .

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    If other clients connected to the Hub do get an IPv6 IP as expected, what are they set to?

                    That address with SLACC is not any better really.

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                    • J
                      Jid @stephenw10
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                      @stephenw10

                      Thanks ,Stv unfortunateley no device is currently connected to LANof BT hub ,apart from Pfsense.

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                        Jid @Jid
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                        @Jid
                        Tried DHCPv6 now getting this fdaa:bbcc:ddee: ?
                        For the LAN side what should it ? Statics? with DHCPv6 active?

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by

                          I expect dhcpv6 to pull an routable v6 IP from a /64 withing the /56 BT are delegating to you.

                          I think you probably need to confirm a laptop connected to the Hub is getting that before going further here.

                          Steve

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                            Jid @stephenw10
                            last edited by Jid

                            @stephenw10

                            BT Hub IPv6 status:
                            Enabled

                            IPv6 network status:
                            Enabled

                            IPv6 WAN details
                            Global unicast address:
                            2a00:xxxx:xxxx:x801:86a1:d1ff:fea1:f0dd

                            Global unicast prefix/length:
                            2a00:xxxx:xxxx:x801::/64

                            Link local address:
                            fe80::86a1:d1ff:fea1:f0dd

                            Remote link local address:
                            fe80::1e6a:7aff:fe68:f00

                            DNS:
                            Not available

                            IPv6 LAN details
                            Global unicast address:
                            2a00:xxxx:xxxx:x800:86a1:d1ff:fea1:f0df

                            ULA prefix / length:
                            fdaa:bbcc:ddee::/64

                            Link local address:
                            fe80::86a1:d1ff:fea1:f0df

                            Pfsense Status:
                            WAN : fdaa:bbcc:ddee:0:215:5dff:feb8:ea10 9 (DhcpV6)
                            LAN: 2a00:xxxx:xxxx:x802:87a1:d1ff:fea1:1000 /64 (Static)
                            Dhcpv6 server (enabled)
                            Range: 2a00:xxxx:xxxx:x802::100 to 2a00:xxxx:xxxx:x802::250 (PC are getting this range)
                            RA: RouterMOde Assisted.
                            Priority Normal
                            DNS Config. : 2001:4860:4860::8888

                            Is any thing unusual here?

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                            • J
                              Jid @stephenw10
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                              @stephenw10

                              Thanks will try this later as its remote site .

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                              • J
                                Jid @Jid
                                last edited by Jid

                                @Jid
                                Just looked further on the BT Hub(under connected devices) and saw this :

                                GUA (Permanent)
                                2a00:xxxx:xxxx:x800:215:5dff:feb8:ea10
                                DHCP
                                ULA
                                fdaa:bbcc:ddee:0:215:5dff:feb8:ea10
                                Assigned by device
                                Link local address
                                fe80::215:5dff:feb8:ea10
                                Assigned by device
                                SO the Pfsense is Actually getting ipv6 in the Right Prefix via Dhcp from HUb ,HOWEVER its prefers the link-local on the WAN interface.

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                                • JKnottJ
                                  JKnott @Jid
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                                  @Jid said in IPV6 - pfsense behind BT Hub:

                                  @JKnott
                                  "With it in gateway mode, only devices connected directly to it will get an address". That is the case here .
                                  The Probem is HOW do I get Devices on LAN side of Pfsense(connected directly to BT hub) to be able to route out in ipv6.

                                  You don't. You're likely only getting a singe /64 from the modem. You can't take it further. You have to get the modem in bridge mode to do what you want.

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                                  i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                                  UniFi AC-Lite access point

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                                  • JKnottJ
                                    JKnott @Jid
                                    last edited by

                                    @Jid said in IPV6 - pfsense behind BT Hub:

                                    fdaa:bbcc:ddee:0:215: is that good.

                                    That would be a Unique Local Address, the IPv6 equivalent of IPv4 RFC 1918 addresses. It is not usable for accessing the Internet.

                                    PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                                    i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                                    UniFi AC-Lite access point

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                                    • JKnottJ
                                      JKnott @JKnott
                                      last edited by

                                      @JKnott said in IPV6 - pfsense behind BT Hub:

                                      @Jid said in IPV6 - pfsense behind BT Hub:

                                      @JKnott
                                      "With it in gateway mode, only devices connected directly to it will get an address". That is the case here .
                                      The Probem is HOW do I get Devices on LAN side of Pfsense(connected directly to BT hub) to be able to route out in ipv6.

                                      You don't. You're likely only getting a singe /64 from the modem. You can't take it further. You have to get the modem in bridge mode to do what you want.

                                      I just did a quick search and came across this about putting your modem into bridge mode. This is what you have to do.

                                      PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                                      i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                                      UniFi AC-Lite access point

                                      I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                                      • stephenw10S
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                        last edited by

                                        If you don't have reason not to have it in bridge mode then just do that and win. But there were some odd static v4 issues you may hit of you have a number of IPv4 addresses in a subnet they route to you.

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                                          Jid @JKnott
                                          last edited by

                                          @JKnott
                                          Thanks
                                          But got a /56 from BT ,i thought i could break this down into further /64 ,use one on the WAN to (same subnet as BT Lan range ,and use another in the Pfsense LAN?

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                                          • JKnottJ
                                            JKnott @Jid
                                            last edited by

                                            @Jid said in IPV6 - pfsense behind BT Hub:

                                            @JKnott
                                            Thanks
                                            But got a /56 from BT ,i thought i could break this down into further /64 ,use one on the WAN to (same subnet as BT Lan range ,and use another in the Pfsense LAN?

                                            That would required configuring that hub in a way that wasn't intended, so you're not likely to have much luck. while BTprovides up to a /56, in gateway mode, you only get a single /64 and there's nothing pfSense can do with that, other than act as a straigth through firewall. It's the same situation as I have hear. I have a modem from my ISP, which I have in bridge mode. It passes the full /56 to pfSense, which I can then split into 256 /64s. If my modem was in gateway mode, I would only get a singe /64. In gateway mode, it won't even provide IPv6 on the guest WiFi.

                                            Bottom line, put it into bridge mode and pfSense will do what you want.

                                            PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                                            i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                                            UniFi AC-Lite access point

                                            I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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