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      nback @stephenw10
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      @stephenw10
      Was WAN,WAN2 and LAN. Originally just WAN amd WAN2 before I added the box on lan.
      Unselecting all interface made no difference to the issue. Just seeing all interfaces listened to in the NTP log. Nothing additional in the NTP status.

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        nback @nback
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        @nback
        I meant to add that I then tried a reboot of pfsense but no change.

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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          Hmm, why is it using localhost as source there....

          Did you actually choose localhost to ping from? It should still work but does it work if you choose WAN as source?

          Steve

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            nback @stephenw10
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              nback @stephenw10
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              ping-from wan-2.png
              ping-from-wan2-2.png

              However from LAN or default does not work.
              ping-from-lan.png
              ping-from-default.png

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                nback @nback
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                @nback
                Maybe this is a clue. All of the dns servers setup in pfsense ping OK using default source address in the Diagnosics Ping web interface.
                127.0.0.1
                74.82.42.42
                208.67.220.220
                2001:470:20::2
                2620:0:ccc::2
                8.8.8.8
                8.8.4.4
                2001:4860:4860::8888
                2001:4860:4860::8844
                2620:0:ccd::2
                208.67.222.222
                212.159.6.9
                212.159.6.10

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by stephenw10

                  Ok, just reviewed everything here and this is the problem, I should have spotted it the first time:

                  Routing tables
                  
                  Internet:
                  Destination        Gateway            Flags       Use    Mtu      Netif Expire
                  default            yyy-yyy-yyy-yyy.plus.com UGS  2425824   1492        lo0
                  dns.google         253.core.plus.net  UGHS     171106   1492     pppoe1
                  dns.google         252.core.plus.net  UGHS     171108   1492     pppoe0
                  

                  Your default route is via lo0.

                  There are gateways for each of the PPPoE connections but there is an additional gateway there, whatever yyy-yyy-yyy-yyy.plus.com is. That is not expected. The default route should be one of the other two gateways shown there.

                  You don't appear to have any static routes via internal gateways so make sure you don't have any gateways defined on internal interface, such as LAN. The outbound NAT rules apply you have 5 interfaces with gateways set

                  Do you have an extra gateway shown in System > Routing? Something left over from the previous config perhaps?

                  What is the default v4 gateway set to there? Set it to one of the ppp gateways or a failover group of the two if it's still set to automatic.

                  Steve

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                    nback @stephenw10
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                    @stephenw10

                    You've found it!

                    It's a hangover in System/Routing/Gateways for multiwan. Originally set up in pfsense 1.2.x
                    Each pfsense upgrade seemed to adjust these setting so that multiwan still worked.
                    I've uncheck the 'Default Gateway' and now I have lots of new ntp servers and pings now works as expected.
                    I now need to review my System/Routing/Gateways and NTP settings.
                    Thanks for all your help.

                    Norman

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                      Nice. I should have spotted that the first time I read the routing table. I saw it was a plusnet address but missed it was on lo0. 🙄 Todays lesson....

                      Steve

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                        nback @stephenw10
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                        @stephenw10
                        OK, that seems to have sorted out ipv4 but I notice in the NTP log
                        'Soliciting pool server 2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fead:69a'
                        but no response.

                        So from the box on the lan:
                        ping -c3 -6 2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fead:69a
                        PING 2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fead:69a(2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fead:69a) 56 data bytes
                        64 bytes from 2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fead:69a: icmp_seq=1 ttl=58 time=11.3 ms
                        64 bytes from 2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fead:69a: icmp_seq=2 ttl=58 time=10.9 ms
                        64 bytes from 2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fead:69a: icmp_seq=3 ttl=58 time=10.4 ms

                        --- 2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fead:69a ping statistics ---
                        3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 4ms
                        rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 10.397/10.849/11.274/0.378 ms

                        From pfsense
                        [2.4.0-RELEASE][root@pfsense.local1]/root: ping6 -c 3 2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fead:69a
                        ping6: UDP connect: No route to host

                        2.4.0-RELEASE][root@pfsense.local1]/root: ping6 -c 3 -S 2001:yyyy:yyyy:yyyy::2 2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fead:69a
                        PING6(56=40+8+8 bytes) 2001:yyyy:yyyy:yyyy::2 --> 2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fead:69a
                        ping6: sendmsg: No route to host
                        ping6: wrote 2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fead:69a 16 chars, ret=-1
                        ping6: sendmsg: No route to host
                        ping6: wrote 2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fead:69a 16 chars, ret=-1
                        ping6: sendmsg: No route to host
                        ping6: wrote 2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fead:69a 16 chars, ret=-1

                        --- 2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fead:69a ping6 statistics ---
                        3 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss

                        Where 2001:yyyy:yyyy:yyyy::2 is the pfsense interface address of an HE tunnel.

                        This seems like a similar problem but I can't see it, or should I raise a separate question?

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                          nback @nback
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                          @nback
                          Fixed it! Set a default gateway for ipv6.

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                            JKnott @nback
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                            @nback said in ntp only connecting to some time servers:

                            Fixed it! Set a default gateway for ipv6.

                            You shouldn't have to. That should happen automagically, through router advertisements.

                            PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                            i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                            UniFi AC-Lite access point

                            I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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