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      dsam @johnpoz
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      @johnpoz Thank you. I do not like UPnP, but some games do require UPnP to function properly, especially if I need two instances of the same game running on different machines with NAT reflection and UPnP on.

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      • johnpozJ
        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
        last edited by johnpoz

        Trying to figure how to get this minupnppc to work... I can get a status now that enabled..

        status.jpg

        Give me a minute on reading the info on this - not a UPnP user ;) and never used this application before, etc.

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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          sure looks to be working

          working.jpg

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            dsam @johnpoz
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            @johnpoz This is the output I get from the same command.alt text

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            • johnpozJ
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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              Well looks like you have multiple devices what is this 192.168.0.4 device? I assume pfsense is 192.168.0.1

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                dsam @johnpoz
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                @johnpoz Yes, pfsense is .0.1. The other one is a router in the same network with UPnP turned off. Even when it did not show up, there was a problem. I had a problem where another router was taking the UPnP requests. So I decided to turn off UPnP on all routers acting as access points.

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                  • johnpozJ
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                    last edited by johnpoz

                    This works just fine... Here I did a tcp forward, vs that udp - because easier to test tcp..

                    So used that tool, requested port, from status on pfsense it opened the port..

                    Now while sniffing on lan, to validate pfsense sends the port on, I did a can you see me..

                    Pfsense sent on the traffic, so clearly upnp is working as it should.

                    working.jpg

                    Even the tool shows that the UPnP is up on pfsense

                    toolshows.jpg

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                      dsam @johnpoz
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                      @johnpoz Is it possible to reset the UPnP service configuration? I tried to look for miniupnpd.conf, but could not find anything.

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                        • johnpozJ
                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                          last edited by johnpoz

                          Well then you should open a thread for 2.5 development.. Its quite possible there is some issue with 2.5..

                          All I can tell you is sure looks to be working as designed on 2.4.5..

                          There should be no reason to reset it... I would suggest you just disable it and then re-enable it... This is what I did to enable it... I always have that shit protocol OFF ;) heheh

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                              kiokoman LAYER 8
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                              • johnpozJ
                                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                last edited by johnpoz

                                Well that was prob just it saying I'm out of here - not going to run this crap protocol ;) heheh

                                Guys its quite possible there are issues with upnp on 2.5 - it not released, you guys could be on different snaps even.. If you have issues or think you have issues with 2.5 and upnp you should bring it up in the 2.5 section.

                                Edit: Guys please edit your 2.5 stuff there is zero reason post that here, it only distracts.. If you do not edit it, I will..

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                                • kiokomanK
                                  kiokoman LAYER 8
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                                  i don't use it anyway, not a problem for me 😌

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                                    dsam
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                                    UPDATE: Someone on Reddit recently said that, "miniupnpd decided they wouldn't allow mapping to RFC1918 addresses any more." In my case, this is true; my pfSense is connected to the ISP's modem and set up in the DMZ. That might be the problem, since the modem gives it a private IP. And that might explain why UPnP worked with @johnpoz since he obviously has his pfSense directly connected to the internet, indicated by the black dash on his IP.

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                                    • kiokomanK
                                      kiokoman LAYER 8
                                      last edited by kiokoman

                                      ok so after finding why my upnp made my system crash, i was able to test this on a virtual machine in a double nat situation,
                                      it does not work 🤔

                                      upnpc -a 192.168.123.2 1234 5678 tcp
                                      GetExternalIPAddress failed
                                      Addportmapping failed with code 501 (Action Failed)
                                      

                                      if i set "Override WAN address" and put a non rfc1918 it work.
                                      if i try this without double nat, it work

                                      this was pfsense 2.4.5

                                      [2.4.5-RELEASE][root@pfSense.localdomain]/root: miniupnpd -d -f /var/etc/miniupnpd.conf
                                      miniupnpd[43089]: version 2.1 starting NAT-PMP/PCP UPnP-IGD ext if vmx0 BOOTID=1585742590
                                      miniupnpd[43089]: Reserved / private IP address 192.168.10.28 on ext interface vmx0: Port forwarding is impossible
                                      miniupnpd[43089]: You are probably behind NAT, enable option ext_perform_stun=yes to detect public IP address
                                      miniupnpd[43089]: HTTP listening on port 2189
                                      miniupnpd[43089]: no HTTP IPv6 address, disabling IPv6
                                      miniupnpd[43089]: Listening for NAT-PMP/PCP traffic on port 5351
                                      
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                                        dsam @kiokoman
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                                        @kiokoman said in UPnP not working:

                                        miniupnpd[43089]: Reserved / private IP address 192.168.10.28 on ext interface vmx0: Port forwarding is impossible
                                        miniupnpd[43089]: You are probably behind NAT, enable option ext_perform_stun=yes to detect public IP address
                                        

                                        I have never come across this error in my testing, which sucks since it could have saved me time. Anyway, how can we enable the "ext_perform_stun=yes" to fix the issue (hopefully)?

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                                        • kiokomanK
                                          kiokoman LAYER 8
                                          last edited by kiokoman

                                          @kiokoman said in UPnP not working:

                                          Override WAN address

                                          i tested it also, but found random stuff on google,
                                          you can use Override WAN address
                                          or
                                          you need to modify /var/etc/miniupnpd.conf and add
                                          ext_perform_stun=yes
                                          ext_stun_host=stun.onesuite.com
                                          and manually launch miniupnpd -d -f /var/etc/miniupnpd.conf

                                          please take in mind that i don't know what/who onesuite.com is, it report your wan ip address.
                                          anothe public stun server is stun.stunprotocol.org
                                          STUN=
                                          Session Traversal Utilities for NAT (STUN) is a protocol that serves
                                          as a tool for other protocols in dealing with Network Address
                                          Translator (NAT) traversal. It can be used by an endpoint to
                                          determine the IP address and port allocated to it by a NAT

                                          maybe we can add this options to miniupnp webgui if it's missing and it's needed, idk

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                                          • viktor_gV
                                            viktor_g Netgate @kiokoman
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                                            @kiokoman said in UPnP not working:

                                            Session Traversal Utilities for NAT (STUN) is a protocol that serves
                                            as a tool for other protocols in dealing with Network Address
                                            Translator (NAT) traversal. It can be used by an endpoint to
                                            determine the IP address and port allocated to it by a NAT

                                            maybe we can add this options to miniupnp webgui if it's missing and it's needed, idk

                                            You can create feature request on the redmine.pfsense.org for this.
                                            it's easy to add to WebGUI, and it may be useful for some ISPs issues.

                                            but https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/10398 needs to be resolved first

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