SG-1100 Mini PCIe slot - purpose?

greeners

I have ordered an SG-1100, and noted on the Netgate product page that it has "1x Mini PCIe slot" with an additional note saying it 'does not support mSATA or LTE cards'. So what is the purpose of the slot? Does it have any practical use for a standard owener?

jahonix

There's probably no support for any kind of mini-PCIe device in the ARM version of pfSense.

stephenw10

That's true, currently there is no PCI support in the SG-1100 image.

Potentially it could be added and used with a wifi device for example. There is no ETA I'm aware of though.

The slot itself is wired for PCIe only so cannot be used for mSATA or LTE (which connect via USB).

Steve

Grimson

@stephenw10 said in SG-1100 Mini PCIe slot - purpose?:

The slot itself is wired for PCIe only so cannot be used for mSATA or LTE (which connect via USB).

Did you order a custom design or can the "Wire jumper" still switch USB to the mini PCIe slot?

wire jumper.jpg

stephenw10

Ooo good point, the jumpers do still exist. Looking back at my notes I had no hardware to test it.

However there is no SIM slot wired to it which most (all?) modem cards would require. I guess you might be able to use one of those adapter cards with SIM slot in it....

Steve

netrace

Resuming this thread exactly 1 year old: is it possible to point me where is located the wire jumper in the board? I do really need LTE connection as mini PCIe, and I only miss the USB interface on the Mini PCIe.

Giorgio

stephenw10

Hmm, I'd have to look into it again but I don't believe you can as I said a year ago.
However there is now some support for the PCI bus in 2.4.5. Actual card support may vary but you might find wifi cards now work there.

Steve

stephenw10

With the WLE200NX for example:

[2.4.5-RELEASE][root@1100-3.stevew.lan]/root: pciconf -lv
ath0@pci0:0:0:0:        class=0x028000 card=0x3099168c chip=0x002a168c rev=0x01 hdr=0x00
    vendor     = 'Qualcomm Atheros'
    device     = 'AR928X Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express)'
    class      = network

netrace

Thanks Steve!
This is a very good news!

However, the usb interface is not wired to the pci. I see many wire jumpers on the board, are you aware of any circuit board schematic I can looking into?

stephenw10

The USB jumpers (J16 and J19) are there so you should be able to switch the connections from the external port to the mPCIe slot. However I cannot find the modem I know I have to test it with right now. I've installed in something but can't for the life of me remember what.
I should point out that while I would expect any issues doing this it would be an untested/unsupported setup. There are no antenna holes so you would need to get creative.

Steve

netrace

@stephenw10 Thanks so much, I'll try this week and let you know!

stephenw10

Found my modem! It works:

[2.4.5-RELEASE][root@1100-3.stevew.lan]/root: usbconfig
ugen0.1: <Marvell XHCI root HUB> at usbus0, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=SUPER (5.0Gbps) pwr=SAVE (0mA)
ugen1.1: <Marvell EHCI root HUB> at usbus1, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=HIGH (480Mbps) pwr=SAVE (0mA)
ugen1.2: <Sierra Wireless, Incorporated Mini Card> at usbus1, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=FULL (12Mbps) pwr=ON (0mA)

ugen1.2: <Sierra Wireless, Incorporated Mini Card> at usbus1
u3g0 on uhub1
u3g0: <Data Interface> on usbus1
u3g0: Found 3 ports.

[2.4.5-RELEASE][root@1100-3.stevew.lan]/dev: cu -l cuaU0.0
Connected
at
OK
ati
Manufacturer: Sierra Wireless, Inc.
Model: MC8775
Revision: H1_1_9_3MCAP C:/WS/FW/H1_1_9_3MCAP/MSM6280/SRC 2007/12/12 11:49:21
IMEI: 013265502503099
IMEI SV: 10
FSN: D611748126531
3GPP Release 5
+GCAP: +CGSM,+FCLASS,+DS


OK

Just move the two jumpers near the USB port (J16+J19) to their alternate positions.

Steve

stephenw10

Of course I've just realised there's no SIM slot. So you would need one of those SIM card adapters.

Edit: Memory not good then! https://forum.netgate.com/post/833230

Steve

daemonix

hello,

Im trying to add a 2.4G PCIE (mikrotik) to the 1100 and boot stops at pci0. I have moved the 2 jumpers as above.

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simple_mfd1: <Simple MFD (Multi-Functions Device)> mem 0x18800-0x188ff,0x18c00-0x18c1f on simplebus1
psci0: <ARM Power State Co-ordination Interface Driver> on ofwbus0
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gpio0: <Armada 37x0 North Bridge GPIO Controller> mem 0x13800-0x138ff,0x13c00-0x13c1f irq 28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39 on simple_mfd0
gpiobus0: <OFW GPIO bus> on gpio0
gpio1: <Armada 37x0 South Bridge GPIO Controller> mem 0x18800-0x188ff,0x18c00-0x18c1f irq 40,41,42,43,44 on simple_mfd1
gpiobus1: <OFW GPIO bus> on gpio1
gpioregulator0: <GPIO controlled regulator> on ofwbus0
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Timecounter "ARM MPCore Timecounter" frequency 12500000 Hz quality 1000
Event timer "ARM MPCore Eventtimer" frequency 12500000 Hz quality 1000
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cpu0: <Open Firmware CPU> on cpulist0
cpu1: <Open Firmware CPU> on cpulist0
pmu0: <Performance Monitoring Unit> irq 4 on ofwbus0
spi0: <Armada 37x0 SPI controller> mem 0x10600-0x10fff irq 6 on simplebus1
iichb0: <Marvell Armada 37x0 IIC controller> mem 0x11000-0x11023 irq 7 on simplebus1
iicbus0: <OFW I2C bus> on iichb0
iic0: <I2C generic I/O> on iicbus0
uart0: <Marvell Armada 3700 UART> mem 0x12000-0x121ff irq 9,10,11 on simplebus1
uart0: console (115200,n,8,1)
gpioc0: <GPIO controller> on gpio0
syscon_generic_dev0: <syscon> mem 0x14000-0x1405f on simplebus1
gpioc1: <GPIO controller> on gpio1
mvneta0: <NETA controller> mem 0x30000-0x33fff irq 14 on simplebus1
mvneta0: version is 10
mvneta0: Ethernet address: f0:ad:4e:23:33:c3
mdio0: <MDIO> on mvneta0
e6000sw0: <Marvell 88E6341> on mdio0
e6000sw0: multi-chip addressing mode (0x1)
e6000sw0: CPU port at 0
e6000sw0: fixed port at 0
e6000sw0: PHY at port 1
miibus0: <MII bus> on e6000sw0
e1000phy0: <Marvell 88E1000 Gigabit PHY> PHY 17 on miibus0
e1000phy0:  none, 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT, 1000baseT-master, 1000baseT-FDX, 1000baseT-FDX-master, auto
e6000sw0: PHY at port 2
miibus1: <MII bus> on e6000sw0
e1000phy1: <Marvell 88E1000 Gigabit PHY> PHY 18 on miibus1
e1000phy1:  none, 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT, 1000baseT-master, 1000baseT-FDX, 1000baseT-FDX-master, auto
e6000sw0: PHY at port 3
miibus2: <MII bus> on e6000sw0
e1000phy2: <Marvell 88E1000 Gigabit PHY> PHY 19 on miibus2
e1000phy2:  none, 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT, 1000baseT-master, 1000baseT-FDX, 1000baseT-FDX-master, auto
e6000sw0: switch is ready.
etherswitch0: <Switch controller> on e6000sw0
xhci0: <Marvell Integrated USB 3.0 controller> mem 0x58000-0x5bfff irq 16 on simplebus1
xhci0: 32 bytes context size, 32-bit DMA
usbus0 on xhci0
ehci0: <Marvell Integrated USB 2.0 controller> mem 0x5e000-0x5ffff irq 17 on simplebus1
usbus1: EHCI version 1.0
usbus1 on ehci0
sdhci_xenon0: <Armada Xenon SDHCI controller> mem 0xd0000-0xd02ff,0x1e808-0x1e80b irq 24 on simplebus1
mmc0: <MMC/SD bus> on sdhci_xenon0
sdhci_xenon1: <Armada Xenon SDHCI controller> mem 0xd8000-0xd82ff,0x17808-0x1780b irq 25 on simplebus1
mmc1: <MMC/SD bus> on sdhci_xenon1
ahci0: <AHCI SATA controller> mem 0xe0000-0xe1fff irq 26 on simplebus1
ahci0: AHCI v1.30 with 1 6Gbps ports, Port Multiplier supported with FBS
ahcich0: <AHCI channel> at channel 0 on ahci0
pcib0: <Marvell Armada 3700 PCIe Bus Controller> mem 0xd0070000-0xd008ffff irq 5 on simplebus0
pcib0: link up
pci0: <PCI bus> on pcib0

Any ideas?

EDIT: I have used the same PCIE wifi card with pfsense on a APU2C4

stephenw10

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