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    pfSense Rewrites Source IP for ICMP Errors Breaking Traceroute

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      miki725
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      Didnt do anything crazy as far as I know:

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      Ill keep digging on my end. Thanks for your help.

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        Alex Atkin UK @miki725
        last edited by

        @miki725 Is it the same problem documented here? https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/9263

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        • GertjanG
          Gertjan
          last edited by

          You're using traffic (ICMP) shaping ?

          No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
          Edit : and where are the logs ??

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            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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            Sure looks like that is his problem... @Alex-Atkin-UK

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              miki725 @Alex Atkin UK
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              @Alex-Atkin-UK

              ooooh. I forgot about the limiter:

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              can confirm that when I disabled floating rule with the queue, traceroute works as expected inside LAN.

              Thank a lot for linking to that. Now would be curious why a limiter would have that affect.

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              • johnpozJ
                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                last edited by johnpoz

                @miki725 said in pfSense Rewrites Source IP for ICMP Errors Breaking Traceroute:

                Now would be curious why a limiter would have that affect.

                It shouldn't - therefore the bug report ;)

                You should of brought up the limiter, when asked doing anything odd on lan side rules (floating would be considered lan side) hehehe.. I will make sure to always mention floating rules going forward..

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                  miki725 @johnpoz
                  last edited by

                  @johnpoz said in pfSense Rewrites Source IP for ICMP Errors Breaking Traceroute:

                  You should of brought up the limiter, when asked doing anything odd on lan side rules (floating would be considered lan side) hehehe.. I will make sure to always mention floating rules going forward..

                  My apologies. Forgot about them. Makes perfect sense that they are as legitimate LAN side rule as any other.

                  Thanks everyone for helping even with limited provided information. Really appreciate everyones time and effort. Stay safe!

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                    Alex Atkin UK @miki725
                    last edited by Alex Atkin UK

                    @miki725 I remembered it as I had the same problem.

                    As I recall you have to add a Pass floating rule for the WAN interface at the top of the list for echo reply/requests with Quick ticked, so it bypasses the limiter rule.

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                    • GertjanG
                      Gertjan
                      last edited by Gertjan

                      @Alex-Atkin-UK : Thanks.

                      That were those for :

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                      ( bottom two rules )

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                      Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                        miki725
                        last edited by

                        Thanks for the suggestion. Didnt even think of bypassing it.

                        Where is a standard place to add limiter rules? Mine is currently is a floating rule. Even with the ICMP bypass rule with Quick above it, traceroute is still impacted:

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                        I tried removing the Quick from the limiter rule but that does not seem to help. Only thing which helps is disabling the limiter altogether. Im probably not doing something correctly if this works for you.

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                        • GertjanG
                          Gertjan
                          last edited by

                          Like me, you added floating rules to do something about buffer bloat.

                          These are all my floating rules :

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                          You're missing one IPv4 rule : the "direction : IN" rule.
                          You have the "Out" rule, the one with the gateway (WAN_DHCP).

                          I also use IPv6 - so that adds 3 more rules.

                          No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                          Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                            bobbenheim
                            last edited by

                            In your ICMP rule setting direction: out, interface: WAN and change default to your actual gateway in advanced > Gateway
                            should do the job.

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                              jamesonp
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                              This got me today. I can confirm the floating rule for ICMP solves the issue.

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