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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @ProfessorManhattan
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      @ProfessorManhattan said in Client Isolation by Default:

      Is there a particular feature I need to look for?

      What a switch maker might call it might vary, but this is commonly called a private vlan.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_VLAN

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      • noplanN
        noplan
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        We v done it here a kind of complex way for a workbench

        8 port vlan switch
        Used 7 ports 7 vlans 7 dhcps and on and on all on pfS working

        PS
        Firewall rules included :)

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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          Yeah that is hard way to do it ;) hehehe Doesn't scale very well.. What if you have say 500 devices...

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          • JKnottJ
            JKnott @noplan
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            @noplan

            Doesn't your switch do that? My Cisco switch certainly does and, IIRC, even my crappy TP-Link switch does too.

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            • johnpozJ
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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              Yeah my switches do it - not sure about the 40$ ones though.. Your saying the $40 tplink that don't really do vlans correctly and don't allow you remove vlan 1 in old versions support private vlans?

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              • JKnottJ
                JKnott @johnpoz
                last edited by JKnott

                @johnpoz

                Hang on a minute while I check.
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                Sorry, I didn't remember correctly. I must have been thinking of my crappy TP-Link AP, which does have that. It also doesn't do VLANs correctly.

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                • johnpozJ
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                  last edited by johnpoz

                  Yeah many a AP can do client isolation keeping wireless devices from talking to each other.. Even the crappiest of 20$ wifi router support this feature quite often ;)

                  But wired switches, I think they need to be more of a full managed switch.. Doesn't it mean it has to be $1k enterprise.. My 200$ small business sg300's can do it for example.

                  The work around for when you have a handful of devices sure is viable even on a $40 smart switch... That works if you have only a handful of devices.. But what if you had 100 ;) hehehehe

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                  • noplanN
                    noplan
                    last edited by

                    Vlan hoppin and tp link
                    And yes the hard way when you do not trust your cheap switch

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                    • JKnottJ
                      JKnott @noplan
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                      @noplan

                      I don't use that TP-Link switch for VLANs. I've configured it to use as a data tap, so I can monitor Ethernet connections with Wireshark. It works fine there.

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                      • noplanN
                        noplan
                        last edited by

                        any suggestions for a cheap switch that can do client isolation out of the box ?
                        ;) brNP

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                          akuma1x @noplan
                          last edited by

                          @noplan said in Client Isolation by Default:

                          any suggestions for a cheap switch that can do client isolation out of the box ?
                          ;) brNP

                          D-Link has a cheap ($35 USD) managed switch, the DGS-1100-05. I quickly looked at the overview, but, like @johnpoz says, a manufacturer could call it something completely different. I didn't see the words "client isolation" specifically. You might have to chat or call them to ask.

                          You could, and I'm not saying it's a good idea, but you could, with that switch, setup VLANs to do some basic isolation.

                          Jeff

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                          • noplanN
                            noplan
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                            Yeah I feel ya

                            That's exactly why we used the hard not well scalable approach for a 8 port switch ;)

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                            • johnpozJ
                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                              last edited by johnpoz

                              @noplan
                              So dlink calls it Asymmetric VLANs

                              Its the same thing - so yeah your good with a switch like that..

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                              • noplanN
                                noplan
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                                Hey thanks for the hint
                                We got here some dgs-1100-08 hanging around in their dusty boxes :)

                                Let's go testin!!!

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