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Looking for pfsense compatible 2500Mbps PCIE RJ45 NIC

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    boogz411
    last edited by boogz411 Apr 21, 2020, 10:31 PM Apr 21, 2020, 10:29 PM

    Need 2500Mbps NIC for PICEx1 slot

    I found this online but wanted to know if pfsense has compatible drivers for it.

    If not, does anyone have any suggestions?

    https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07Y2GWVB8/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apa_i_PZ2NEbJ9A85DH

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      whosmatt @boogz411
      last edited by Apr 22, 2020, 3:11 AM

      @boogz411 If that's using the RTL8125 chipset it's not yet supported in FreeBSD and thus pfSense best I can find.

      If you just want a single port as fast as possible in a x1 slot use a riser cable on any 10Gbps (or whatever) NIC that is supported. You won't get full speed but you could get 2.5Gbps I expect.

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        q54e3w
        last edited by Apr 22, 2020, 6:22 AM

        Can I ask what the use case is for needing 2.5gbps rather than 10gbps that is way more common on mature.
        2.5gbps is newer tech so don’t expect faster 10gbps cards to automatically sync up at 2.5 or 5gbps.

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          chpalmer
          last edited by Apr 22, 2020, 7:06 PM

          There are a handful of new cablemodems coming out with a single 2.5gbps interface.. I myself will be testing one as soon as it gets here..

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            boogz411
            last edited by boogz411 Apr 22, 2020, 7:10 PM Apr 22, 2020, 7:09 PM

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              boogz411 @q54e3w
              last edited by Apr 22, 2020, 7:12 PM

              @q54e3w

              Here's what I'm looking to achieve.

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                q54e3w @chpalmer
                last edited by Apr 22, 2020, 7:26 PM

                @chpalmer Thanks, is that 2.5gbps on the WAN or LAN side? Is this intended for folks bonding 2*1gbps services? I'd be interested in reading more - can you link to the modem you refer to please?

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                  chpalmer
                  last edited by chpalmer Jul 10, 2020, 8:36 PM Apr 22, 2020, 7:32 PM

                  https://www.go2mhz.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/MB8611-DataSheet-MHZ_4-20.pdf

                  https://zoom.net/documents/news/MB8611-CableLabs-Release-Dec2019.pdf Same modem but on the Zoomtel letterhead..

                  Edit- These as well. Sercomm DM1000, Netgear CBR750 and Technicolor CVA4003

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                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by Apr 22, 2020, 9:05 PM

                    Yeah there are a few ISPs offering 1500Mbps services where the modem link is at 2.5G.
                    The only solution I have seen is to use a Broadcom NIC with custom firmware and a patched driver. Or get a switch that can link at 2.5G and 10G but that's an expensive option.

                    From the diagram it looks like you're already planning use a Broadcom NIC for the link to the modem. Just use a 10G NIC to link to the switch. As has been said 2.5G will just give you problems and you don't need it there.

                    Steve

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                      indigo88
                      last edited by Jun 14, 2020, 1:43 AM

                      The Intel X550 supports NBASE-T in Linux and seemingly does in BSD now, although it shows as “unknown” in the pfSense UI. I have been using the X550 with no issues since 2016, although only at 1G/10G speeds.

                      I started a thread here: https://forum.netgate.com/topic/146913/nbase-t-support-for-intel-x550/20 and @WanTime seemingly saw 2.5Gbps throughput even if the link speed shows as “unknown” in the UI.

                      I plan on getting a MB8611 or CBR750 as soon as they are available. I have the X550 going into a 10Gbps switch, and it works great. Hoping to get a little extra parallel performance since Comcast overprovisions their gigabit to 1.2Gbps.

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                        palapaquete @q54e3w
                        last edited by Jun 19, 2020, 2:32 PM

                        @q54e3w with 2.5g I can reuse my existing wires and the NIC cards are chipper that the 10gb.

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                          Cool_Corona @palapaquete
                          last edited by Jun 19, 2020, 2:59 PM

                          @palapaquete said in Looking for pfsense compatible 2500Mbps PCIE RJ45 NIC:

                          @q54e3w with 2.5g I can reuse my existing wires and the NIC cards are chipper that the 10gb.

                          Most Cat6E offers 10gbe speed. So unless you have very bad cabling then I dont get why 2,5gbs is worth it?

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                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by Jun 19, 2020, 8:29 PM

                            I think your mean CAT5e? Which is probably what @q54e3w has installed. Though it would not surprised me to find that could not pass 10GbE.

                            I'm not sure 2.5GbE cards are actually cheaper. Not those that actually work. Not yet at least.

                            Steve

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                              bingo600
                              last edited by Jun 20, 2020, 11:20 AM

                              Just saw this one (Realtek though ...)

                              https://www.cnx-software.com/2020/06/18/odroid-h2-plus-sbc-gets-upgraded-to-celeron-j4115-processor-2-5gbe/

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                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by Jun 20, 2020, 2:04 PM

                                via RTL8125B chipset

                                I would not hold your breath on that. 😉

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                                  kiokoman LAYER 8
                                  last edited by kiokoman Jun 20, 2020, 2:22 PM Jun 20, 2020, 2:18 PM

                                  max speed for cat5 is 100Mbs
                                  max speed for cat5e is 1Gbs
                                  max speed for cat6 is 10Gbs

                                  you need cat6 to be able to go at 2,5Gbs
                                  cable are now so cheap that there is no reason to buy cat5e instead of cat6 or cat6a on amazon

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                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                    last edited by Jun 20, 2020, 2:24 PM

                                    That's the rated speeds but in reality you can usually get Gigabit over cat5 especially on a short run.

                                    I've never tried putting 10GbE down Cat5e but it would not surprise me if it worked in some cases. I certainly wouldn't rely on that though.

                                    Cable is cheap indeed but replacing it when it's already run in your building is not (often).

                                    Steve

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                                    • kiokomanK
                                      kiokoman LAYER 8
                                      last edited by Jun 20, 2020, 2:43 PM

                                      i don't think it's possible, there isn't a big difference between cat5 and cat5e, only less crosstalk/noise reduction but they both perform up to 100mhz so it's possible that a cat5 can get Gigabit but for 10Gbe you need cable that can go up to at least 250Mhz, with a patch of 15cm of cat5e i was unable to connect my 10Gbps switch to my intel x550

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                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                        last edited by Jun 20, 2020, 3:03 PM

                                        Well I won't argue with a real test. 👍

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                                          DaddyGo
                                          last edited by Jun 20, 2020, 3:12 PM

                                          I say from experience, even a 1m Cat5e patch, spoils the 10Gig
                                          this physical design depends on high frequency behavior
                                          (shields, spacers in the cable, etc)

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