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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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      I don't use wireless uplink, but I would "think" that would be a requirement for meshing.. Since wireless connectivity to another AP is required for meshing to function.

      were assigned to wireless clients?

      Well unless you setup your vlans on your switch.. And your wireless network - then yeah the wireless network would be untagged and be on the same network as the wire is..

      Fast roaming is just that, its not a requirement to roam ;) 802.11r or FT is really more geared towards wpa enterprise - where your using radius to auth..

      The process can cut the auth down to like 4 packets vs 8, etc. But really to the user you really wouldn't notice any difference.. You shoudln't be noticing a roam from one AP to the another either way.. your talking like 50 ms..

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      • QinnQ
        Qinn @johnpoz
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        @johnpoz 50ms ;) then I won't enable fast roaming and dsiable uplink and element adoption. Btw what is best practice on introducing the second nanoHD? Maybe make a backup of the first nanoHD a restore it to the second one?

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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          huh? Just plug it in... Why would you need a backup? I think your not really understanding how multiple AP work with unifi..

          The config is on the controller - it will push your config to whatever AP you adopt.. All the wireless networks will be on all AP you adopt.. Unless you specifically go into a AP and change something like don't broadcast this ssid, or disable 2.4 or 5, etc.

          Be it you have 1 or 10 AP.. Only thing you would really want or need to change on the AP different AP is what channels to run on.. And you could actually just let that be auto via the controller, etc.

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          • QinnQ
            Qinn @johnpoz
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            @johnpoz Yep, I didn't know how they work, from what I read now the moment you "adopt" a new one it will grab the settings, as I said I am on a steep learning curve.....😅

            https://community.ui.com/questions/Adding-a-second-AP-to-my-house-do-I-need-to-configure-it-to-make-it-all-one-big-coverage-area/21f75032-b55d-4a1d-b696-c6b8c425f377

            So you recommend setting channels manually, I will, thanks. I must say I am beginning to get the Unifi feeling 😇 and beginning to get used to the look and feel of the controller, hope it stays as rock solid as it is now...

            btw first I used a static IP for the NanaHD and got an alert, then I set it to DHCP with a reserve IP on pfSense and this alert disappeared are you formiliar with this?

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            • johnpozJ
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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              Not sure what alert you got, I use static on all 3 of my AP.

              As to static vs auto channels - thats up to you.. I just set them, its pretty much a set it once and forget it thing.. You only have 2 so if you want to run 80 vht you really only have 2 choices ;) 36 and 149..

              For 2.4 you only have 1,6 and 11 to choose from... What is in the area.. Pick 2 that are least use in any neighbors.. Its not like you have 20 AP in a building and your trying to make sure you have least amount of interference between all your APs..

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              • QinnQ
                Qinn @johnpoz
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                @johnpoz

                Where can I set the static ip in this menu I can only see LAN and the ip of my gateway, eg pfSense

                1.png

                The only way it is mentioning is in devices, you'll see the ip and the setting dhcp.

                ip.png

                dhcp.png

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                • johnpozJ
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                  Yup you set it on the device directly..

                  static.jpg

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                  • johnpozJ
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                    BTW - your way behind on firmware ;)

                    The latest beta is
                    5.17.0.11742

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                    • QinnQ
                      Qinn @johnpoz
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                      @johnpoz You use beta, do you recommend it? and why is there a LAN with dhcp, as there are no ports to connect?

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                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                        Yeah I have always run the beta.. This is my home network.. I have no issues with some of blip or something - but in the years been running unifi.. I don't recall really ever having anything that was of any real issue.. There have been some beta's where the speed wasn't as fast as other firmware releases.. But they normally correct in the next update, etc.

                        I run the beta controller as well.. 5.14.9 currently.

                        The one thing nice about running controller on VM, is just take a snapshot before update.. And if goes south, just restore the snap and back to where you were.

                        why is there a LAN with dhcp, as there are no ports to connect?

                        Yah lost me - not understanding what your asking there? Oh the controller run multiple things, switches and their USG (router) which can provide for dhcp and other networks. Notice the USG required next to that ;)

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                        • QinnQ
                          Qinn @johnpoz
                          last edited by Qinn

                          @johnpoz Oeps missed that, there are some other settings that are for other gear, like DPI (deep packet inspection), it is on by default and as I don't have a unifi security gateway I will turn it of.

                          Strange thing I have ra0 to ra4 and ra4 is ra4 e2:63:da:40:11:6c element-64e46abdc079e335 11 ? So although I have mesh/uplink disabled ?

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                          • johnpozJ
                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                            @Qinn said in Seamless roaming:

                            element-

                            You can turn those off - those are for adoption of specific unifi gear, like their new plug and stuff.. If you don't have any of that gear you can turn those off. Just delete them if you have already unchecked the setting.

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                            • QinnQ
                              Qinn @johnpoz
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                              @johnpoz I can't remove the element wlan, maybe it's gone after a reboot of the device or do you have a ssuggestion?

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                              Btw tommorow I am busy, friday more time, one question, when I adopt the second nanoHD what will it do with the ip address as I now have set it static?

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                              • johnpozJ
                                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                Huh? The static IP is per AP, by default the AP will come up with dhcp.. If you want to set it static then you would have to set it per that AP..

                                This should help in removal of the element ssid
                                https://community.ui.com/questions/SSIDs-named-element-xxx/3de45b45-83bc-4480-a066-68f404029ae7

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                                • QinnQ
                                  Qinn @johnpoz
                                  last edited by Qinn

                                  @johnpoz Thanks will try it friday, got to move now, "grazie mille" 👍 👍 for all the explaining and your time, super...I am beginning to like unifi

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                                  • JeGrJ
                                    JeGr LAYER 8 Moderator @Qinn
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                                    @Qinn Just to chime in quickly from the left field: I'd also advise to reconsider the need for 4 (or more) SSIDs as every SSID you use slows down the bandwith of your WiFi so the less you use, the more you get on your devices. If you do it "right", all you need are one or two SSIDs anyway. One running Radius based VLANs (perhaps together with freeradius on your pfsense) and one for those old/dumb devices, that don't work with AES-Enterprise WiFi (User/Pass instead of shared key). :)

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                                    • QinnQ
                                      Qinn @JeGr
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                                      @JeGr Thanks for the hint, I will reconsider.

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                                      • johnpozJ
                                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                        To chime in on that as well - if you really really want to get fancy.. You might even be able to get by with just 1 ssid.. where you assign vlans based on mac of the devices.

                                        Maybe just 2 if you want a enterprise auth ssid, and for those iot devices and such just use psk, I did a test a while back they first came out with the dynamic vlan support, and I did get it to work based on mac for psk devices..

                                        I was thinking at one time to go down this path.. But haven't gotten back to it ;) Lots of devices - all working, segmented out how I want.. Haven't found the motivation to change it all up just to drop a couple of ssids ;)

                                        While sure the fewer the ssids the better if your looking to max tweak your setup.. A couple of extra ssids not going to be a big difference in overall performance ;)

                                        Here this might help
                                        https://help.ui.com/hc/en-us/articles/360015268353-UniFi-USG-Configuring-RADIUS-Server

                                        You can use freerad on pfsense for this vs using the radius server of usg..

                                        I currently use 4 ssids = 4 different vlans
                                        1 wpa2-enterprise with eap-tls auth, this is for my trusted devices. My phone, Wife's phone, my laptop, my tablet, etc.
                                        2 wpa2-psk for iot devices, thermostat, alexa devices, smart bulbs, the like
                                        3 wpa2-psk for roku/tv stuff. My harmony remote, tv, roku sticks
                                        4 wpa2-psk for guest devices.. Even setup QR code on a business card I can give guest so they can just scan the qr code with their phone and get on.. Zero reason for them to type out the very long and complex psk ;)

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                                        • QinnQ
                                          Qinn @johnpoz
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                                          Thanks guys and thanks john, for now I will stay on 4 ssids = 4 different vlans ;)

                                          @johnpoz First things first reporting back, I tried the link to remove the element ssid using the classic settings, alas no avial. Then the new settings and deleted it, worked like a charm.

                                          Second, I have encountered a strange problem and after more than 2 hours I just can't quite put my finger on it. I have 2 nodes each none connected to a different wireless bridge, both of the same vendor, both with the same firmware version. They are in different vlans, until I switched over from Engenius to UniFI the both worked like a charm. With UniFi one is connected to the AP and the other one not. It doesn't seem to be related to the wireless bridge, because when I switched the wireless bridge that could not access the vlan to the other vlan it connected, I have no idea why it cannot access the one vlan an no the other?

                                          btw is see this

                                          Channel     Auto(8(6,+1) HT40
                                          

                                          What channels are these?

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                                          • johnpozJ
                                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                            last edited by johnpoz

                                            @Qinn said in Seamless roaming:

                                            Auto(8(6,+1) HT40

                                            Yeah that is horrible setup.. HT40 is not a supported option on 2.4... I would HIGHLY suggest you set 20 VHT on your 2.4 even if some clients and vendors say they support this.. It is not a standard that is supported and it will and does cause all kinds of issues.. And also use of anything other than 1,6 or 11 on 2.4 is just pointless.. Even if some auto config says hey lets use channel 8.. It's Borked!! with 2.4 the only channels that do not overlap are 1,6 and 11..

                                            channel.jpg

                                            I have no idea why it cannot access the one vlan an no the other?

                                            Your going to need to give a bit more detail on how exactly you have this setup.. What are you rules on the vlans you created? How you have it actually wired up, etc. etc..

                                            These wireless bridges? How do you have them connected? What make/model of these devices? You have them connecting to your AP ssids? and then what wired devices hanging off them?

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