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    • K
      kevindd992002
      last edited by

      How's BIOS v4.12.0.1 doing for the one's who tested already?

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        fireodo @kevindd992002
        last edited by fireodo

        @kevindd992002 said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

        How's BIOS v4.12.0.1 doing for the one's who tested already?

        Until now I cannot find any issue ...

        Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
        SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
        pfsense 2.7.2 CE
        Packages: Apcupsd Cron Iftop Iperf LCDproc Nmap pfBlockerNG RRD_Summary Shellcmd Snort Speedtest System_Patches.

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          kevindd992002 @fireodo
          last edited by

          @fireodo said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

          @kevindd992002 said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

          How's BIOS v4.12.0.1 doing for the one's who tested already?

          Until now I can find any issue ...

          Sorry, you can or you can't?

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          • fireodoF
            fireodo @kevindd992002
            last edited by

            @kevindd992002 said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

            @fireodo said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

            @kevindd992002 said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

            How's BIOS v4.12.0.1 doing for the one's who tested already?

            Until now I can find any issue ...

            Sorry, you can or you can't?

            I cannot find any issue :-)

            Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
            SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
            pfsense 2.7.2 CE
            Packages: Apcupsd Cron Iftop Iperf LCDproc Nmap pfBlockerNG RRD_Summary Shellcmd Snort Speedtest System_Patches.

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              kinch
              last edited by kinch

              Hello
              I bought an APU2E4 I have tried to increase the throughput with the help of this website. Supposedly a speed with only 1 connection at about 800Mbit/s and with 2 connections should be about 940 Mbit/s. But I reach with a measurement in LAN (iperf3) with one connection about 350Mbit/s.

              The following is in loader.conf.local:

              hw.igb.rx_process_limit="-1"
              hw.igb.tx_process_limit="-1"

              offloading is unchecked under advanced networking.

              website:
              https://teklager.se/en/knowledge-base/apu2-1-gigabit-throughput-pfsense/
              https://teklager.se/en/knowledge-base/apu-pfsense-throughput-bios-comparison/

              BIOS: 4.12.0.1
              pfsense: 2.4.5

              What could be the problem here?

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              • DaddyGoD
                DaddyGo
                last edited by DaddyGo

                this has long been out of date https://teklager.se/ !!!

                This is the right @kevindd992002 !!!

                @kinch Pls, check all offloading (because i210AT = multi - queue ethernet controller
                (4 receive queues and 4 transmit queues))

                Thanks @saltandpepper

                edit:
                the APU board Coreboot development team (https://3mdeb.com/) isn't specifically focused on FreeBSD, it's more Linux, so wait longer and don't update the BIOS right away

                Think about how long it has not been recommended the Mainline releases for FreeBSD (pfSense) only Lagacy was the right way.

                Cats bury it so they can't see it!
                (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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                  kevindd992002 @DaddyGo
                  last edited by

                  @DaddyGo said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                  this has long been out of date https://teklager.se/ !!!

                  This is the right @kevindd992002 !!!

                  @kinch Pls, check all offloading (because i210AT = multi - queue ethernet controller
                  (4 receive queues and 4 transmit queues))

                  Thanks @saltandpepper

                  edit:
                  the APU board Coreboot development team (https://3mdeb.com/) isn't specifically focused on FreeBSD, it's more Linux, so wait longer and don't update the BIOS right away

                  Think about how long it has not been recommended the Mainline releases for FreeBSD (pfSense) only Lagacy was the right way.

                  I'm sorry but which info were you trying to tell me? I don't seem to understand your mention.

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                    kinch @DaddyGo
                    last edited by

                    @DaddyGo

                    what do you mean, outdated?
                    How does his test differ from now?

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                    • DaddyGoD
                      DaddyGo @kinch
                      last edited by

                      @kinch

                      Hi,

                      since then the guys (F.E. - @kevindd992002 ) who actively use the pfSense with APU boards overwritten this tweak ( https://teklager.se/)
                      our system has nearly 40 pcs. APU4d4s, so I speak from experience as well

                      what you read here ( https://teklager.se/) is just a test and suggestion, since then the experience gained is important, not a blog statement

                      Cats bury it so they can't see it!
                      (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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                      • DaddyGoD
                        DaddyGo @kevindd992002
                        last edited by

                        @kevindd992002 I'm just saying that your work is the appropriate guidance

                        Cats bury it so they can't see it!
                        (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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                          kinch @DaddyGo
                          last edited by

                          @DaddyGo
                          unfortunately, none of the guys you mentioned posted a speed test. Also the question is not answered, how the boy from https://teklager.se/ could reach these values.

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                            kevindd992002
                            last edited by

                            You're probably referring to @dugeem's post here. It wasn't "my work" per se :)

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                            • DaddyGoD
                              DaddyGo @kevindd992002
                              last edited by DaddyGo

                              @kevindd992002

                              yes, I know but you were mentioned in this post and I passed it on ☺
                              I didn't want to complicate the thread further with the question of author......... (ERROR on my part)
                              but you are right, the laurel is his: @dugeem

                              edit: you see how many misconceptions there are about APU ✋

                              Cats bury it so they can't see it!
                              (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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                              • DaddyGoD
                                DaddyGo @kinch
                                last edited by

                                @kinch
                                pls. don't get me wrong, I want to help

                                do you want to get first hand results, why is speed the most important thing?
                                (what kind of speed ISP connection do you have at home, how big is the internal network?)
                                is it a business or SOHO system you operate?

                                I'm happy to help you, because I know the limits of APU stuff as well (we've been using them for 4 -5 years for "homeworker" colleagues' endpoints)

                                Cats bury it so they can't see it!
                                (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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                                  FLOK
                                  last edited by

                                  Hi again !
                                  I did every trick you gave me...
                                  Flashed back to Bios V4.10.0.1 - Halt System - Disconnect Power for 30sec.

                                  Made changes is loader.conf.local
                                  2020-06-04 17_34_18-Window.png

                                  Made a few tunables (like DaddyGo)
                                  2020-06-04 17_35_18-Window.png

                                  Disabled the offloads
                                  2020-06-04 17_36_59-Window.png

                                  Reboot

                                  Speedtest
                                  2020-06-04 17_38_24-Window.png

                                  Shit ☹

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                                  • DaddyGoD
                                    DaddyGo
                                    last edited by DaddyGo

                                    Never give up ☺

                                    it’s time to review your entire configuration
                                    can we get a drawing of your system and more information

                                    (F.E. ISP, WAN interface type, installed packages, LAN enviroment)
                                    believe me the APU knows a lot in the SOHO category

                                    the place of the joke:
                                    "the error is in your device"
                                    does not matter anyway, this is a European slang

                                    edit: it was missed

                                    dbf52341-6047-4731-a8d3-23ddcb98d84a-image.png

                                    Cats bury it so they can't see it!
                                    (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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                                    • DaddyGoD
                                      DaddyGo
                                      last edited by DaddyGo

                                      watch this, this is an APU 4d4 performance (I apologize for the Hungarian language)
                                      yes, I live in lisbon now because ☺

                                      cf3cbb49-0bbd-48b7-94e6-97a955066997-image.png

                                      and

                                      deb634a5-1aee-45ce-a37b-26869792f622-image.png

                                      what is the lesson
                                      is that it is not impossible ☺

                                      a small dictionary:

                                      letöltés = download
                                      feltöltés = upload
                                      késleltetés = latency
                                      átlag = average
                                      remegés = jitter

                                      Cats bury it so they can't see it!
                                      (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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                                      • VeldkornetV
                                        Veldkornet
                                        last edited by

                                        Personally, I got better performance by enabling hardware offload (clear the check boxes).

                                        iPerf on local LAN from pfSense (client) to my NAS (server):

                                        iperf3 -c SERVER_IP_HERE -P 4
                                        

                                        With Hardware Offload: ~950Mbit/s

                                        Without Hardware Offload: ~450Mbit/s

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                                          VAMike @Veldkornet
                                          last edited by

                                          @Veldkornet congratulations, you posted an irrelevant performance number for people trying to configure a router or firewall!

                                          offload can potentially help a client because the client can send a large chunk of data to the NIC at once and then allow the NIC to chop the data into packets and send. offload is useless on a firewall, which must inspect and process packets rather than large chunks of data.

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                                            VAMike @FLOK
                                            last edited by

                                            @FLOK 92.8Mbps looks suspiciously like you have something negotiating a 100Mbps link. even the original APU could push data faster than that, let alone the APU2, and with no faffing about with configuration settings. you are wasting your time by trying to fine tune your way out of this; put everything back to the default and then find the actual problem.

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