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    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
    last edited by johnpoz Jun 7, 2020, 2:17 PM Jun 7, 2020, 2:13 PM

    Airtime fairness would depend on your environment and how you use wireless.. If you want to make sure no wifi client hogs up all the bandwidth then yeah you can turn that on... But will most likely notice that your top speed will drop for any single client.. For example - values will depend on your internet and how your testing.. But with off you might see say 400mbps from a client, while on maybe only 300.. And if lots of other clients on maybe only 200..

    Something you will have to experiment with for your own setup and clients and use case and what exactly you want to accomplish.. I have it off.. But maybe you want it on?

    The name kind of describes what it does - it tries to be fair to all clients on how much of the airtime (wifi) they can use.

    If you were doing something stupid like trying to do torrents over wifi, more than likely you would like it on ;) If you have a client that likes to download large files over wifi while your trying to stream netflix, again you might want it on.. etc. etc.

    if you like to see max possible speed when doing speedtest over your wifi - you prob want it off ;)

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      Qinn @johnpoz
      last edited by Jun 7, 2020, 2:24 PM

      @johnpoz Thanks John, are there any settings you would advise?

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        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
        last edited by Jun 7, 2020, 2:32 PM

        Pretty much default should work for you out of the box... But everyone's wants out of their wifi is different.. Their client make is going to be different..

        What is so nice about unifi is feature set - if you need X you can use it, Maybe I don't want X but Y as setting.. Unifi exposes and allows for pretty much all the major settings that you would find in a very expensive enterprise wifi setup.. While being a reasonable price for the home enthusiast to be able to leverage..

        Unlike your typical home soho router that allows for user to like set a ssid, and then turn it off and back on again if something is not working.. And that is pretty much the extent of what you can do with it ;) It either works for you or it doesn't - there is really nothing else to do.. .The maker of said device made all the choices of what features to support or not support for you.. And then they will abandon that model in a year, and say oh you want to do X - yeah buy this years model ;)

        Have you updated to the beta firmware and controller?

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          Qinn @johnpoz
          last edited by Qinn Jun 7, 2020, 3:36 PM Jun 7, 2020, 3:25 PM

          @johnpoz Nope not yet, and that's why I love opensource, support and people who can spend time to make something good and not are forced to fray, just to get it out and sold.
          I am always amazed, how many people complain about there WiFi and still use the All-in-One thingy from the ISP provider that's stored in the cupboard.

          btw why I am not on beta, I wanted this setup to be thoroughly tested, so that I know that everything is stable. As you pointed out earlier beta quiet stable, so I will move over tomorrow.

          Btw is there any way I can analyze why/where the interference of UAP-nanaHD-1.8 comes from?

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            NogBadTheBad
            last edited by NogBadTheBad Jun 7, 2020, 4:29 PM Jun 7, 2020, 4:23 PM

            It might be the other ap try dropping the power down and see if it improves.

            You can look at the RF environment in the unifi app, If you look about you’ll find it.

            There is a windows program called inssider that would show other wifi in the area.

            https://www.metageek.com/products/inssider/

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              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
              last edited by Jun 8, 2020, 12:57 AM

              Have it do a scan it will report - look at the insights for your nearby wifi.. Yeah 23% seems a bit high..

              Here is my 2g and 5g interference..

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                Qinn @johnpoz
                last edited by Jun 8, 2020, 10:24 AM

                @johnpoz Is it possible to choose the channels? Using a channels analyzer the UAP's are on 2 1+5 and 11+7

                btw I don't understand controller says when it comes to the channel, 9(11,-1)HT40, so how does 9(11-1) has any to do with the channels I see 1,5,7,11?

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                  NogBadTheBad
                  last edited by NogBadTheBad Jun 8, 2020, 10:58 AM Jun 8, 2020, 10:38 AM

                  Re your BTW question, it's down to you using HT40 @2.4Ghz, when you set HT40 its eating into other channel space.

                  Click on the gear and you can change the channels

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                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                    last edited by johnpoz Jun 8, 2020, 12:30 PM Jun 8, 2020, 12:27 PM

                    Went over this already I thought 40mhz channels on 2.4 is nonstandard.. Its not worth it, going to cause you issues, and most devices don't support or actually do it anyway, even if they say they do ;)

                    Set your 2.4 to 20.. Your interference issue most likely will go away as well when you do that.

                    If what you want is speed on your wifi - 2.4 is not that answer.. So 40mhz is pretty pointless on it - especially with the limited number of channels. Even if out in the middle of no where and zero other wifi around.

                    Since you can not do unii-3, as @NogBadTheBad is doing you could try using the DFS channels for 80VHT that doesn't overlap - comes down to if your devices will use them or not.

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                      Qinn
                      last edited by Jun 8, 2020, 3:02 PM

                      Thanks @NogBadTheBad BadTheBad and @johnpoz , your both right, me being pig headed 😉 , now they are both on 20HT

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                        NogBadTheBad
                        last edited by Jun 8, 2020, 3:03 PM

                        How is the interferance now?

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                          Qinn @NogBadTheBad
                          last edited by Jun 8, 2020, 3:48 PM

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                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                            last edited by Jun 8, 2020, 4:37 PM

                            10% still seems a bit high.. What do you have in the area.. Is there strong AP in the area? You can look under insights "Neighboring Access Points" For what your AP are seeing and what channels they are on and strengths... Try and be on channels that do not overlap for the strongest ones near you.

                            Also you can have the AP do a RF scan and they will report which channels have higher interference.

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                              Qinn @johnpoz
                              last edited by Jun 9, 2020, 7:17 AM

                              @johnpoz I live in the country side the nearest house is 100 yards, the only thing I can think of is a 4G modem else there is nothing. btw I opt for a new Synology DS718+

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                                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                last edited by johnpoz Jun 9, 2020, 9:52 AM Jun 9, 2020, 9:46 AM

                                Hope your going with more than 2GB if you want to run vm.. Wow that doesn't look cost effective - what price did you get it at.. I show the 918+ for only 50$ more on amazon..

                                Comes 4GB vs 2, has 2 more bays - you can never have enough bays.. And you can setup nvme cache - which tell you is big plus when running vms..

                                Its just the 918 baby brother.. But I don't think the cost difference makes up for 2 bays and more preinstalled ram and the ability to add nvme caching..

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                                  Qinn @johnpoz
                                  last edited by Qinn Jun 9, 2020, 11:53 AM Jun 9, 2020, 11:50 AM

                                  @johnpoz You are quit right, here the ds918+ is about €100 more expensive and as I want to use docker it seems a far better choice. Btw here 4GB ram D3NS1866L-4G costs €74 and you are right on the bays. I can of course, for now only use 2 bays and maybe later expand. Do have exprience with the ds918+ in combination with docker and unifi?

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                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                    last edited by Jun 9, 2020, 12:16 PM

                                    Other than lack of 10ge support I could not be happier with the ds918+.. Oh and wish it had 8 bays vs 4 ;) hehehe

                                    I always have 2 VMs running.. The controller and ombi (plex request system) running on 2 different VMs - I should really prob just merge that to 1.. But also have other VMs on there that I fire up when needed.. Other than 8GB limitation and its not some 8 core i9.. It works just fine for vms.. I have notice that with cache they are much snappier that is sure.. I run 256GB read/write cache via nvme... I do notice that plex interface is a bit snappier with it as well..

                                    Also running 2 dockers.. Tautulli (plex thing, sends out newsletter and such for when I add stuff) And gives me insight into how much stuff is being watched, and what, etc. Pretty eye candy graphs for that sort of thing.. And updatetool, also another plex thing.. It runs an update for imdb ratings every 12 hours.. Plex is pretty shitty in getting current and updating the ratings for movies and shows.. That docker directly goes out to imdb and or moviedb and directly manipulates the plex local db with the correct and current info.. It really is quite slick ;)

                                    I currently have 3x4TB in a raid 0, and then another 8TB on its own.. So about 20TB - I am over the 60% mark, and that is with lots of maint on my part moving stuff to 265 vs 264 to save a bit of space here and there.. So the growth rate is not as steep as it could be.. But already planning on upgrade strategy to move that raid 0 array to 8TB or larger disks.. Which I will just do as jbod vs any sort of array.. I have time but keeping an eye out for any screaming deals on disk - maybe with all this SMR stuff that has come out - might see some sales on those models? They are fine for my use I would think.

                                    I am sure the 718 will work great, it is the little brother of the 918.. But for the cost difference seeing to me make more sense to just get the bigger brother is all.. The bump in preinstalled ram prob worth it alone - and again, you can never have enough bays ;) hehehehe

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                                      Qinn
                                      last edited by Jun 9, 2020, 6:08 PM

                                      @johnpoz II just bought a ds219+ and collect It tomorrow and will report back, kudos for the good advice

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                                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                        last edited by Jun 9, 2020, 6:12 PM

                                        You mean the 218+ ?

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                                          Qinn @johnpoz
                                          last edited by Jun 9, 2020, 6:33 PM

                                          @johnpoz typo, I followed your advice and instead of the ds718+ I went for the ds918+

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