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Transparently Intercept and Redirect DNS Traffic to an Internal DNS

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    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
    last edited by johnpoz Jun 22, 2020, 10:43 AM Jun 22, 2020, 10:41 AM

    Then what your seeing makes zero sense...

    So I can for sure duplicate your problem when the NS is on the same network..

    root@ntp:/home/pi# dig @8.8.8.8 www.google.com
    ;; reply from unexpected source: 192.168.3.10#53, expected 8.8.8.8#53
    ;; reply from unexpected source: 192.168.3.10#53, expected 8.8.8.8#53
    

    But if I put it on a different subnet works fine, or if forward to loopback, or if setup nat reflect auto outbound nat rules so it

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    You can see from this sniff, pfsense saw traffic to 8.8.8.8, sent it on from its own interface 3.253 to 3.10, got answer and then sent answer back to 3.32 looking like it came from 8.8.8.8

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    But yes if client thinks it sending to A, and gets back answer from B - its going to complain.

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      gniting @johnpoz
      last edited by Jun 22, 2020, 11:06 AM

      @johnpoz makes zero sense to me too, hence the continued head-scratching ☺

      I do have the option enabled to Enable automatic outbound NAT for Reflection. On your network, you have the NAT redirect rule and that's it?

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        Marv21 @gniting
        last edited by Jun 22, 2020, 8:08 PM

        @ibbetsion
        Both are /24 ?

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          gniting
          last edited by Jun 22, 2020, 8:46 PM

          Yes

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            Marv21 @gniting
            last edited by Marv21 Jun 22, 2020, 9:09 PM Jun 22, 2020, 9:02 PM

            @ibbetsion
            Hmm.
            What you could try (if you have not done any own modifications in the filesystem) - Backup everything, reinstall Pfsense und roll back the Backup.
            I had it once a while (4years or greater) that i had done this and suddenly everything was ok.

            Is this a Virtualized Maschine or something?

            Could you post all NAT Rules, Outbond Page, Lan Rules and DNSNet rules here as Screenshots?

            Do you have any Floating Rules?

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              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
              last edited by Jun 22, 2020, 9:44 PM

              @Marv21 said in Transparently Intercept and Redirect DNS Traffic to an Internal DNS:

              s this a Virtualized Maschine or something?

              That is a great question...

              Why don't you just sniff and see exactly what is happening..

              I don't intercept traffic on the same interface and send back in, but yes that outbound nat automatic should do make it look like i comes from the pfsense interface in that network when you do it that way..

              If pfsense redirects traffic and doesn't nat it or is not the gateway for the return.. Then yes your client is going to scream at you you - wtf is this I sent to A, why is B sending me a response.

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                gniting @Marv21
                last edited by Jun 22, 2020, 10:13 PM

                @Marv21 said in Transparently Intercept and Redirect DNS Traffic to an Internal DNS:

                @ibbetsion
                Hmm.
                What you could try (if you have not done any own modifications in the filesystem) - Backup everything, reinstall Pfsense und roll back the Backup.
                I had it once a while (4years or greater) that i had done this and suddenly everything was ok.

                Is this a Virtualized Maschine or something?

                Could you post all NAT Rules, Outbond Page, Lan Rules and DNSNet rules here as Screenshots?

                Do you have any Floating Rules?

                No floating rules and machine is not virtualized. I will try the reinstall recommendation.

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                  gniting @johnpoz
                  last edited by Jun 22, 2020, 10:30 PM

                  @johnpoz will attempt to diagnose using packet capture.

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                    Marv21 @gniting
                    last edited by Jun 24, 2020, 9:54 PM

                    @ibbetsion
                    Something new on this?

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                      gniting
                      last edited by Jun 24, 2020, 10:00 PM

                      Unfortunately not yet. I am attempting to procure a completely separate host to try this out vs having a host that has two NICs (with each NIC on one of two subnets). Just trying to minimize the variables.

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                        Marv21 @gniting
                        last edited by Jun 25, 2020, 12:38 AM

                        @ibbetsion
                        At the Moment you have only one NIC with two VLANs?

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                          gniting @Marv21
                          last edited by Jun 25, 2020, 6:35 AM

                          @Marv21 No, there are no vlans. The host has two physical NICs.

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