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      Stewart
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      RTP faces 2 big problems: SIP ALG and NATting. SIP ALG was created to assist in allowing SIP to traverse networks properly by rewriting the ports in the headers. I've troubleshot countless VoIP problems and I've never, not once, seen SIP ALG do anything but break SIP. At this point it's almost like it becomes a selling point for ISPs. NATting is an issue in that the packets have internal and external IPs and ports listed in the info packets. If they get NATted more than once then those get jumbled. It's a terrible mess.

      Ultimately you must figure out these 3 things:

      1. Is your WAN a public IP or a private IP? If it's public then you're not being double NATted. If it's private then it is.
      2. Does the modem have any firewalling in place? Regardless of the rest of the stuff, having the firewall on can interfere.
      3. Is the modem performing SIP ALG? If so, it must be turned off.

      The step after that will probably be a Wireshark trace. Start capturing on the WAN, place a test call, hang up, stop the capture. Then you can view the VOIP info in Wireshark and see what's happening. Who is your SIP provider?

      @DaddyGo Is that a Grandstream inferface I see there? That looks an awful lot like the old GXW4108s I used to use.

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        rafamello
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        the company that "sold" the service configured ports 16000: 33000 for RTP.

        About duplicating NAT, I didn't understand.

        What I have is:

        ![0_1593456131058_Screenshot_1.png](Uploading 100%)

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          DaddyGo @Stewart
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          @Stewart said in Voip no audio:

          Is that a Grandstream inferface I see there? That looks an awful lot like the old GXW4108s I used to use.

          ok you won 😉
          in some places in our radio studio we use these "beauties" Grandstream HT801 és 802, for older analog phones, as ATA
          this is because the Cisco STA112 cannot operate from POE power

          their GUI is evil, but otherwise I think they have been working without problems for 6 to 7 years...

          Cats bury it so they can't see it!
          (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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            Stewart @DaddyGo
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            @DaddyGo I ran a ton of HT502s and never had a problem. The GXWs needed to be rebooted once or twice year but otherwise worked well. The Sipura/Linksys/Cisco SPA ATA models have been less reliable and cost a bit more. Towards the end of us using them they got a new GUI but I wasn't in them much after that so I'm not sure the difference. I don't think that the newer firmware had the yellow background with the orange headers, though, so that may help with the interface.

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              Stewart
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              @rafamello Can you re-upload? All I'm seeing is text showing "![0_1593456131058_Screenshot_1.png](Uploading 100%)"

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                rafamello @Stewart
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                @Stewart

                1.Is your WAN a public IP or a private IP? If it's public then you're not being double NATted. If it's private then it is.

                private
                2.Does the modem have any firewalling in place? Regardless of the rest of the stuff, having the firewall on can interfere.

                It is disabled
                3.Is the modem performing SIP ALG? If so, it must be turned off.
                It is disabled

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                  DaddyGo @Stewart
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                  @Stewart "he GXWs needed to be rebooted once or twice year but otherwise worked well."

                  now a built-in feature in the GUI for configurable reboot ... juppppijuhe
                  every two weeks on Sunday at dawn restart and work really well

                  Cats bury it so they can't see it!
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                    chpalmer @rafamello
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                    @rafamello said in Voip no audio:

                    private

                    Would it be possible for you to bridge your modem and get your public IP address on your WAN?

                    Triggering snowflakes one by one..
                    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

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                      DaddyGo @rafamello
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                      @rafamello

                      SIP makes it easier... to find his way, especially if you have STUNT in the system
                      RTP is not and if you have dual NAT then it sucks

                      Cats bury it so they can't see it!
                      (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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                        rafamello @Stewart
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                        @Stewart NAT.png

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                          DaddyGo @rafamello
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                          @rafamello

                          listen to the good advice from @chpalmer :
                          Would it be possible for you to bridge your modem and get your public IP address on your WAN?

                          ++++edit:
                          VOIP, behind dual-NAT can take several hours for even a seriously trained IT guy too

                          Cats bury it so they can't see it!
                          (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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                            rafamello @chpalmer
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                            @chpalmer said in Voip no audio:

                            Would it be possible for you to bridge your modem and get your public IP address on your WAN?

                            I am seeing another environment that has this configuration for me to test.

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                              rafamello @DaddyGo
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                              @DaddyGo it's difficult, you will end up losing the customer.

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                                DaddyGo @rafamello
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                                @rafamello

                                do you write from Portugal or Brazil?

                                Cats bury it so they can't see it!
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                                  rafamello @DaddyGo
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                                  @DaddyGo

                                  Brasil

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                                    rafamello
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                                    @Stewart said in Voip no audio:

                                    SIP ALG

                                    now with the public IP on the WAN the IPBX support is claiming that the internal IP arrives, I believe that I would now have to do a nat out ... I already have the image in the will it be correct?

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                                      DaddyGo @rafamello
                                      last edited by DaddyGo

                                      @rafamello "Brasil"

                                      this is a problem, because if you were corresponding from Portugal.....
                                      then I know ISPs (MEO, NOS, Vodafone)here and I know how to create "modo -bridge"

                                      -the easiest is if you can get a direct public IP on the WAN

                                      • if you can't do that then the RTP ports must be forwarded through the ISP router and pfSense and it will work

                                      unfortunately, it is so difficult to help that we do not know your tools / devices or the specific connection system

                                      Cats bury it so they can't see it!
                                      (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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                                        Stewart @rafamello
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                                        @rafamello If their SIP packets have the private IP encapsulated then they won't be able to stream back to you. I'm not sure which it would be but it's either ALG or the double NAT. SIP doesn't really work with either.

                                        When dealing with Cable operators in the USA (Spectrum and Comcast) there are 3 modes for the cable modems:

                                        1. RIP with NAT = Use when you are not providing a separate router. You would never use this with pfSense or any other customer provided firewall/router.
                                        2. RIP without NAT = Use when you have a static IP programmed in the router and the modem needs to be your Gateway.
                                        3. Bridge = Use when you don't have a static and are providing your own router. This puts the Public IP directly on your firewall.
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