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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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      @DaddyGo said in Drive Space Incorrect Raid 5:

      What do you want to achieve with TBs on pfSense?

      That is a very good question - curious minds want to know ;)

      When you install pfsense it will create the partition on your disk/array for its use.. This is what df would show.. That partition size.

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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        The output of geom disk list might be more useful here.

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          chrisfox75 @stephenw10
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          @stephenw10

          This is interesting geom disk list reports the correct size even though df -h does not.

          Geom name: mfid0
          Providers:
          1. Name: mfid0
             Mediasize: 9000103968768 (8.2T)
             Sectorsize: 512
             Mode: r2w2e7
             descr: (null)
             ident: (null)
             rotationrate: unknown
             fwsectors: 63
             fwheads: 255
          
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          • DaddyGoD
            DaddyGo @chrisfox75
            last edited by DaddyGo

            @chrisfox75

            because everything is fine with the disks / array 😂
            take this into account @johnpoz "When you install pfsense it will create the partition on your disk/array for its use.. This is what df would show.. That partition size." !!!!

            Cats bury it so they can't see it!
            (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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              chrisfox75
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              The partition size on installation was the full size of the array when installed so why the discrepency.. As i wrote in my first post, this happened 2 different times 2 different machines and different drives. Partition size reflects array size but DF -H does not report the correct partition size.

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              • DaddyGoD
                DaddyGo @chrisfox75
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                @chrisfox75

                then again, back here:

                "how did you set up RAID 5?

                by H710 RAID setup? (Press CTRL-R during boot)
                or with the pfSense installer? (FreeBSD)"

                Cats bury it so they can't see it!
                (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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                  chrisfox75 @DaddyGo
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                  @DaddyGo said in Drive Space Incorrect Raid 5:

                  H710 RAID setup?

                  H710 RAID setup

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                    chrisfox75 @chrisfox75
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                    Advanced Properties
                    Status	 
                    Name	Virtual Disk 0
                    Device Description	Virtual Disk 0 on Integrated RAID Controller 1
                    State	Online
                    Layout	RAID-5
                    Size	8382.00 GB
                    Span Count	1
                    Block Size	512 bytes
                    Bus Protocol	SAS
                    Media Type	HDD
                    Operational State	Not Applicable
                    Read Policy	Adaptive Read Ahead
                    Write Policy	Write Back
                    Stripe Size	64K
                    Disk Cache Policy	Default
                    Enhanced Cache	Not Applicable
                    Progress	Not Applicable
                    Bad Blocks Found	No
                    Secured	No
                    Remaining Redundancy	1
                    T10 PI Status	Disabled
                    Controller	PERC H710 Mini (Embedded)
                    View Physical Disks
                    
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                    • DaddyGoD
                      DaddyGo @chrisfox75
                      last edited by DaddyGo

                      @chrisfox75

                      it depends on a hardware-based RAID and Dell card
                      configure ZFS arrays (RAID 5) with pfSense installer

                      +++++edit:

                      genuine Dell stuff is not supported under FreeBSD - by Dell
                      do you see FreeBSD OP system somewhere here?

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                      Cats bury it so they can't see it!
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                        chrisfox75 @DaddyGo
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                        @DaddyGo

                        My Perc H710 does not have IT mode enabled its running as a dell card, i dont see a benefit in running ZFS software raid when the hardware raid runs just fine

                        I wonder if i went wrong was with the partition scheme during setup

                        I used MBR - Dos Partitions not sure how that would matter unless there is a size limit on the partition that i dont know about and really what option should be used? But after selecting MBR i did see all of the partitions and their correct sizes that they should have been, if the array is reporting correctly why isnt the OS reporting the same

                        Someone else has had to run into this before. Doubt it has anything to do with pfSense, its all FreeBSD

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                          chrisfox75 @DaddyGo
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                          @DaddyGo said in Drive Space Incorrect Raid 5:

                          @chrisfox75

                          it depends on a hardware-based RAID and Dell card
                          configure ZFS arrays (RAID 5) with pfSense installer

                          +++++edit:

                          genuine Dell stuff is not supported under FreeBSD - by Dell
                          do you see FreeBSD OP system somewhere here?

                          23f1907e-4d82-4a56-bb67-2a615a60f184-image.png

                          9a5f19c3-d4d3-4753-a3f3-25bd224dec4b-image.png

                          If FreeBSD is not compatible then tell me why for one it is running and why you just said

                          " It depends on a hardware-based RAID and Dell card
                          configure ZFS arrays (RAID 5) with pfSense installer "

                          So now your saying if i reconfigure the partitions as ZFS it will report correctly and run fine when your paste of the controller said the opposite?

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                          • DaddyGoD
                            DaddyGo @chrisfox75
                            last edited by DaddyGo

                            @chrisfox75

                            We run Dell R210II hardwares (3 pcs.) with PERC H200 in native mode...

                            the ZFS is a high-security file system, that’s a fact
                            therefore, we use RAID 5 mode on these pfSense devices

                            and yes we configured the RAID mode with the pfSense installer
                            works fantastic

                            BTW:
                            FreeBSD supports this card (H710)
                            otherwise, Dell will not address FreeBSD compatibility

                            I think no one in this world...
                            have not yet installed TBs (gigamegaterrepeta) of HDD / SSDs for pfSense
                            pointless and damn unsafe
                            large hard drives consume a lot of power

                            this is an NGFW / router!

                            Cats bury it so they can't see it!
                            (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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                              chrisfox75
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                              So basically if i dont conform and rebuild this box using ZFS this thing will never report the correct drive space to the OS. Obviously something is just strange here..

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                                DaddyGo @chrisfox75
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                                @chrisfox75

                                Juppp,

                                okay, I don't think anyone can answer that for you
                                because no one makes such a crazy configuration
                                everyone here deals with the basic (advanced) operation of the firewall and gives advice

                                so experiment as described above

                                I’ve worked with Dell a lot in the past, so my opinion is that the issue here is this hardware RAID software RAID

                                if you want to be absolutely sure, throw up a FreeBSD 12 ..... on this "iron" and see what happens

                                I don't think so(!!!!!), but it could also be that pfSense itself doesn't see it anymore.....TBs
                                because it makes no sense, anyway

                                Cats bury it so they can't see it!
                                (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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                                  chrisfox75 @DaddyGo
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                                  @DaddyGo

                                  I think no one in this world...
                                  have not yet installed TBs (gigamegaterrepeta) of HDD / SSDs for pfSense
                                  pointless and damn unsafe
                                  large hard drives consume a lot of power

                                  this is an NGFW / router!

                                  I have built numerous Checkpoint Firewalls over the years running TB's of storage for customers, and for at the time the largest ISP in the world UUNET before MCI Worldcom bought them and everything ran great for Gigabytes and Terabytes of storage so i wouldnt say nobody in this world has done it, and im sure im not the only one running a Dell R720 with a few TB of storage on the unit, you work with the hardware you have and make the best out of it, im not planning on going out and buying a brand new server with a few gigs of storage for a firewall/router and most people understand that.

                                  I appreciate your help and direction but could do without the direction of the best way you think it should be done when everyone has their own, and besides why im doing it this way was completely irrelevant to the initial question i posted as to why the OS is reporting the wrong size for the partitions

                                  First by posting this that was not helpful at all

                                  "genuine Dell stuff is not supported under FreeBSD - by Dell
                                  do you see FreeBSD OP system somewhere here?"

                                  and then stating

                                  "BTW:
                                  FreeBSD supports this card (H710)
                                  otherwise, Dell will not address FreeBSD compatibility"

                                  Which completely through me for a loop not understanding if it was or it wasnt. Just cause it works sometimes doesnt mean its completely compatible.

                                  Again, the help is appreciated, after all the confusion i found a site that explained the whole process to me regarding partitions on FreeBSD then what i got outta being confused.

                                  Being nice goes a long way with others..
                                  Thanks for your assistance @DaddyGo
                                  Have a blessed day.

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                                  • DaddyGoD
                                    DaddyGo @chrisfox75
                                    last edited by DaddyGo

                                    @chrisfox75 said in Drive Space Incorrect Raid 5:

                                    Being nice goes a long way with others..

                                    allow me one last word - my friend!

                                    you probably misunderstand me, because of my shitty english (sorry, I speak three languages and English is not the primary)

                                    I dissolve the confusion pictures in your head:

                                    "BTW:
                                    FreeBSD supports this card (H710) =
                                    https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=mrsas&sektion=4

                                    "genuine Dell stuff is not supported under FreeBSD - by Dell
                                    do you see FreeBSD OP system somewhere here?" =

                                    bb097ad7-1ffa-4c06-9d86-2cd0512668fb-image.png

                                    BTW:
                                    I still don't understand what TBs storage capacity is needed on pfSense ???

                                    Have a nice day!

                                    Cats bury it so they can't see it!
                                    (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                      last edited by

                                      Try geom part list.

                                      It looks like mounted slice just isn't any bigger that 2TB.

                                      Steve

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