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    • JeGrJ
      JeGr LAYER 8 Moderator
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      I'd die happy with a 1Gbps sync. fiber and he plays 10G... insane! :)

      Don't forget to upvote 👍 those who kindly offered their time and brainpower to help you!

      If you're interested, I'm available to discuss details of German-speaking paid support (for companies) if needed.

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      • PippinP
        Pippin
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        Nice!

        Over here 1G symmetric costs €39/month and 10G symmetric €89/month or €890/year
        Not available in all regions though.

        I gloomily came to the ironic conclusion that if you take a highly intelligent person and give them the best possible, elite education, then you will most likely wind up with an academic who is completely impervious to reality.
        Halton Arp

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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          Wow, that's good value.

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            tman222
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            Awesome speed!! Another area in the midwest U.S. that offers 10Gbit internet as well is Cedar Falls, Iowa -- and starting at only $105/month. That's fantastic deal, nevermind the area's lower cost of living.

            https://www.cfu.net/tv-internet/shop-plans/internet

            @Derelict - I'm curious if you would entertain us and do a bit more testing on your 10Gbit circuit - how about a running a Flent RRUL test against a AWS or Google Cloud VM near you to see if your equipment can push 9Gbit/s+ up and down at the same time? It's a full duplex test. :)

            https://flent.org/tests.html#the-realtime-response-under-load-rrul-test

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            • bmeeksB
              bmeeks
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              Just curious --- what is the "over-subscription model" for these 10G providers in the US and abroad? I'm wondering how reliable the 10G performance really is. Or stated another way, how quickly does the speed fall way down due to oversubscription like can happen in a cable system with a highly loaded node. So long as only one or two folks do a speed test they get full speeds, but if say six try it simultaneoulsy everybody gets killed.

              For example, back years ago when I had DSL, BellSouth fed the DSLAM I was connected to with a 12 megabits/sec circuit composed of eight trunked 1.5 megabits/sec T1 lines in what amounted to a LACP trunk. They sold 1.5, 3.0 and 6.0 megabits/sec service out of that DSLAM. At that time, if I recall, a remote DSLAM could typically feed 24 or maybe up to 48 residences. So obviously all of us did not get 6 megabits/sec simultaneously. So just wondering how it holds up for you guys with 1G and 10G services.

              I'm stuck at 100/10 megabits/sec (down/up) at my house, but thankfully I'm on a super lightly loaded node and I've never seen my speeds suffer from the effects of over-subscription. I did, from to time, see the effects of over-subscription with my old DSL service.

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              • DerelictD
                Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
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                They discussed it. As of now they are not overbooking anything. There are only a small handful of people with this service here according to them. They ran another strand of fiber and I am connected straight to them outside the normal 1G network that carries their streaming TV, etc. They also said they had recently upgraded the backend to 100G backbones. Their 1G network also consistently tested like 938/938 when I eliminated any bottlenecks caused by me. Like every time I ran it.

                Anything other than standard DHCP gets pretty expensive. If you want statics, etc.

                A full 10G/10G with routed subnets, etc is $7500/month with term commitments, etc. I will not be doing that. :)

                I like them. No nonsense with their gear (See the AT&T garbage in the other threads), etc. Just a DHCP ethernet handoff. The 10G is a multimode LC connector. The 1G is copper.

                It is pretty difficult having a profitable ISP model without technically overbooking everything. It's how packet-switched networks are designed to work. "guaranteed" bandwidth that is not being used is wasted. I am pretty happy with an ISP as long as they do not bufferbloat the crap out of everything and the latency/jitter is kept to a acceptable level. For me, consistency is more important than speed. I just wanted this because I could get it.

                We use to have Frame-Relay going all over southern California. We'd go through NNIs between GTE/Verizon and AT&T. They would constantly overbook those and it was a total PITA to get it fixed.

                Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
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                • bmeeksB
                  bmeeks @Derelict
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                  @Derelict said in So I moved to Chattanooga so I could get the fastest internet in America:

                  I like them. No nonsense with their gear (See the AT&T garbage in the other threads), etc. Just a DHCP ethernet handoff. The 10G is a multimode LC connector. The 1G is copper.

                  Yeah, that's the way I would like my fiber to the home service to work if any is ever available in my small town. Just give me a fiber connector and an IP address (for IPv4, DHCP works). For IPv6 I truly hope the residential ISPs get their acts together in the US and offer you a static /56 or even a /48.

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                  • DerelictD
                    Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate @bmeeks
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                    @bmeeks They are slow in implementing IPv6 but at least they have not done it wrong.

                    Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                    A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                    DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                    Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                    • bmeeksB
                      bmeeks @Derelict
                      last edited by bmeeks

                      @Derelict said in So I moved to Chattanooga so I could get the fastest internet in America:

                      @bmeeks They are slow in implementing IPv6 but at least they have not done it wrong.

                      I knew Chattanooga had their own city infrastructure. I followed the discussions in the past. Geographically I'm not too far away from you down in south central Georgia, but no Gigabit anything around here ... ☹. Of course I could walk out of the house and leave my doors unlocked without really fretting too much, so there is that ... ☺.

                      Been to Chattanooga many times to visit and on business. Our company had contracts for IT-related nuclear power things from DS&S (bought out by Rolls-Royce). I was at their Chattanooga location a few times and over in Huntsville, AL a bunch of times.

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                      • DerelictD
                        Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
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                        Without getting too personal, we wanted to get out of the desert. With the current work from home gig it could have been anywhere we wanted:

                        1. Not the desert - with moderate winters.
                        2. Good internet - AT&T areas were specifically and wholly avoided.
                        3. No state income tax
                        4. No major, common threats like tornadoes and hurricanes
                        5. Enough population that I might be able to get a job if this dries up
                        6. People who are like-minded politically and a legislature that is not teetering on the brink of disaster such as Nevada's was before it fell off the cliff.

                        Turns out this has been a bad year for tornadoes in TN but it's fairly uncommon. EPB with an xfinity cable backup certainly checks off #2.

                        Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                        A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                        DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                        Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                        • bmeeksB
                          bmeeks @Derelict
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                          @Derelict said in So I moved to Chattanooga so I could get the fastest internet in America:

                          Without getting too personal, we wanted to get out of the desert. With the current work from home gig it could have been anywhere we wanted:

                          1. Not the desert - with moderate winters.
                          2. Good internet - AT&T areas were specifically and wholly avoided.
                          3. No state income tax
                          4. No major, common threats like tornadoes and hurricanes
                          5. Enough population that I might be able to get a job if this dries up
                          6. People who are like-minded politically and a legislature that is not teetering on the brink of disaster such as Nevada's was before it fell off the cliff.

                          Turns out this has been a bad year for tornadoes in TN but it's fairly uncommon. EPB with an xfinity cable backup certainly checks off #2.

                          You picked a great place. As I said, have visited many times over the years. Especially enjoy spending a couple of nights downtown every now and then and walking the river walk, touring the Aquarium (again) and have taken the grandkids with us to ride the jet boat up the river and back (leaves from and is part of the Aquarium).

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                            • GertjanG
                              Gertjan
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                              @PenAndPencil said in So I moved to Chattanooga so I could get the fastest internet in America:

                              Could it be because of the plugins?

                              Your device, a PC (?) has something like a task or process manager.
                              Open it up an have a look what process uses what "Ethernet' resources.

                              Basicly, it true, all those 'resident' programs tend to be chatty and eat up your bandwidth.
                              Just check out what Ethernet resources a booting Windows 10 PC uses : it's just amazing.
                              Btw : use a router like pfSense , it has a "Network traffic capturing" tool. Have a look what that device with that IP is using.
                              And subscribe to golden rule : less is always better.

                              No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                              Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                              • DerelictD
                                Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                last edited by Derelict

                                I wanted to again stress the importance of the browser when conducting a speed test. 940/940 is expected here:

                                Test Unit: 2012 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz i7. Tests run back to back to back to back using the same device through the same path.

                                Native App:

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                                Firefox:

                                Screen Shot 2020-07-31 at 9.47.45 AM.png

                                Chrome:

                                Screen Shot 2020-07-31 at 9.47.56 AM.png

                                Safari:

                                Screen Shot 2020-07-31 at 9.48.09 AM.png

                                Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                                A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                                Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                • D
                                  dumont @Derelict
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                                  @Derelict said in So I moved to Chattanooga so I could get the fastest internet in America:

                                  It was installed a couple of days ago.

                                  I had to wait for an X520 card that came yesterday.

                                  Ubuntu X520 <-> ix1.240 <-> tnsr 20.02 NAT <-> ix0 <-> ISP 10G

                                  78ebe0d3-5d12-415e-ad1e-10bf6cfa0e04-image.png

                                  Impressive. Awesome speed.

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                                  • johnpozJ
                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                    @dumont said in So I moved to Chattanooga so I could get the fastest internet in America:

                                    Impressive. Awesome speed.

                                    Meh - its ok <rofl>

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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                      Ha. I doubt that's a domestic connection though. 😉

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                                      • GertjanG
                                        Gertjan
                                        last edited by Gertjan

                                        Hummm.

                                        A Paint Shop Pro connection ?

                                        edit : no, wait, really ? ... some one put pfSense in front of something like close to a Transatlantic communication cable ??

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                                        No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                                        Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                                        • johnpozJ
                                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                          No its a real connection - if photoshopped it, would of been faster ;)

                                          Its not mine... here is the link, I was just playing with derelict after he got his 10ge in..

                                          https://www.speedtest.net/result/d/61d72984-376b-42a3-8cd3-1973e128c149

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