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    Accessing a local web server from local network with NAT reflection + port forwarding

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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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      ^Exactly just setup a host override for your fqdn that points to your local IP..

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        wyang
        last edited by wyang

        Thank you very much @heper and @johnpoz for your quick response!

        Please correct me.

        To my understanding, for accessing a local server from local network, it can use either NAT reflection or DNS forwarder/resolver with override.

        If use NAT reflection, do I still need to use host override?

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
          last edited by johnpoz

          If your going to use nat reflection, then no you don't need host override.. But nat reflection is not the way.. To be honest nat reflection is an abomination to all things holy about networking ;)

          host overrides "this is the way"
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uelA7KRLINA

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            wyang
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            Thanks @johnpoz !

            Before switch to split DNS method, I'd like to understand a bit more on how requests from a local client to a local server are handled by pfSense. Would you mind to brief that?

            Also, are there any ways to track how the requests are handled with the tools on pfSense?

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            • johnpozJ
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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              Pfsense wouldn't be doing anything other than handing it answer to the dns query, unless the server is on a different vlan than the client.

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                wyang
                last edited by

                Sorry, I mean for NAT reflection, I'd like to understand a bit more on how requests from a local client to a local server are handled by pfSense. Would you mind to brief that?

                Also, are there any ways to track how the requests are handled with the tools on pfSense?

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                • johnpozJ
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                  last edited by

                  Nat reflection would have to use proxy method and connection would look like it came from pfsense vs the client.. It really is an abomination.. And should only be used when you have no other choice.. Like some idiot hard coded an IP in some app..

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                    wyang
                    last edited by

                    Thanks @johnpoz !

                    On my local server, it has nginx ingress to handle requests to different services identified by FQDNs, e.g., abc.example.com, def.example.com.

                    So, if use split DNS solution, instead of use host override that does not support hostname wildcard, it'd be sustainable to use domain override.

                    I tested to configure domain override as
                    Domain: example.com
                    IP Address: <the local server IP>
                    Source IP: ; leave blank

                    However, it does not work.

                    I'd much appreciate if you could correct me. Thanks.

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                    • johnpozJ
                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                      last edited by johnpoz

                      Its not domain override its HOST override..

                      Put in the fqdn you want to resolve to that IP.. if you have 1 or 100 of them..

                      domain override is when there is a specific Name Server (NS) that will resolve that domain.

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                        wyang
                        last edited by

                        That does not sustainable :)

                        Thanks a lot @johnpoz !

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                        • johnpozJ
                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                          last edited by

                          What is not sustainable? Setting local dns to resolve local IPs? You could have 10,000 fqdn resolve locally.. Or 100k even.. Not sure what your saying is not sustainable?

                          Even if pfsense was providing the public dns via bind (never use unbound for that since its not meant to be an authoritative ns).. You could setup views so internally they would resolve to internal and externally they would resolve to the public, etc.

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                            heper
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                            B>it's better to use a 4x4 to go through the jungle.
                            A>Yes, but is it not also possible using a corolla, then i wouldn't need a 4x4?
                            B>using a corolla in a jungle is an abomination to all things holy about driving in the jungle. 4x4 is the way

                            .....
                            A> using a 4x4 is not sustainable

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                              wyang
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                              Thanks very much @johnpoz and @heper for your prompt responses.

                              In the env of a Kubernetes cluster behind pfSense, there are a lot of requests from local network to local K8s FQDNs. Therefore, it'd be much more flexible if host override supports wildcard for the host field, since all these FQDNs resolve to a same local virtual IP.

                              I was wondering if the feature of wildcard host name would be possibly supported for host override in the near future release ?

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                              • johnpozJ
                                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                last edited by johnpoz

                                @wyang said in Accessing a local web server from local network with NAT reflection + port forwarding:

                                supports wildcard for the host field

                                You can do that now.. Just not in the gui..

                                https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/dns/wildcard-records-in-dns-forwarder-resolver.html

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                                  wyang
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                                  It works. Thanks very much @johnpoz !

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