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    • GertjanG
      Gertjan
      last edited by Gertjan

      I initially thought I understoof your question :

      You want your son, when he is connecting from 'some where', using the pfSense OpenVPN, having access to some devices on the LAN - and not to others.
      Right?

      H'll be using the pfSense OpenVPN server, so the rules I showed should be placed on the OpenVPN interface firewall rule tab.
      Because OpenVPN server traffic comes in by this interface.
      Not the LAN interface : he isn't connected to the LAN interface.

      You put all the IP addresses he is allowed to connect to into an alias
      Use this alias in a Pass rule.
      Then create a second block rule, that forbids all access to the network (the IP addresses uses in the alias are part of this network).
      Put in place a third - pass all rule if you allow that he can visit the Inter through the OpenVPN remote access.

      No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
      Edit : and where are the logs ??

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        comet424
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        @akuma1x
        ok is this correct then landon.PNG
        this is my LAN rules i think i have it set properly then

        lan.PNG

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          comet424
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          @Gertjan ok ill have to re read

          what i did was setup 2 OPENVPNs

          i already have 1 for myself to give full access
          and the 2nd open i made for him and thats LandonsVMS thats linked to the 2nd openvpn thas what i thought you had setup in your example.. so i made 2 openvpn servers

          as there was no option in pfsense to allow a user to use the OpenVPN and under restrictions of user to access certain IPS

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            comet424
            last edited by comet424

            ok i renamed my interface so doesnt confuseland2.PNG

            what i really wanted was
            1 OpenVPN server running
            user (me) has full admin access when loggin in
            user (landon) has only access to the VMS (for now)

            but under users you can create Groups but i tried asking and i tried looking through the settings

            to say User Group (LandonsVMS) has access to this range
            but when you look under the access they can have its just the pfense pages access control.. not like restricted access

            so now i made 2 Open VPNS 1 for my to log in full access and other for his access
            if i knew how to make 1 server and then 2 user accounts 1 that has full access and 2nd has just access to the VM Ips

            and sorry my dislexia confuses people too i dont explain things right.. yet sounds right to me

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            • GertjanG
              Gertjan @comet424
              last edited by

              @comet424 said in how do you setup users with restricted access:

              to say User Group (LandonsVMS) has access to this range
              but when you look under the access they can have its just the pfense pages access control.. not like restricted access

              The pfSense user access :

              e262a53f-987d-46c4-aed8-a36855c07958-image.png

              determines what users - can access the web GUI of pfSense, and what parts.
              It doesn't handle network access.

              Your choice to have two OpenVPN servers with dedicated firewall rules seems a good solution to me.

              No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
              Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                comet424
                last edited by

                @Gertjan ah ok to groups is just editing the pfsense.. figured you only want an admin to edit it

                so that also means users can log in to either openvpn then with there login pass

                i come across another issue with the openvpn to make that 2nd openvpn i did the wizard where you create a new cert new ca i did the 192.168.0.0/24 etc i chose the assignment and gave that openvpnvm link... but when i goto to Export the clients are not shown.. its there for the main one i have for full access

                so i get "If a client is missing from the list it is likely due to a CA mismatch between the OpenVPN server instance and the client certificate, the client certificate does not exist on this firewall, or a user certificate is not associated with a user when local database authentication is enabled."

                now today first time running 2 openvpn servers and its been a year since i even touched my openvpn server since i set it and forget it.. and dont work with this everyday..

                i did the wizard but what could gone wrong.. where would i look what screen shots would you need

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                  comet424
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                  gonna try... delete cas certs openvpn server firewall settings it creates and do a reboot so its clean to see if it fixe's it

                  when in doubt do a reboot lol

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                    comet424
                    last edited by comet424

                    well that didnt work
                    deleted all saved rebooted.
                    then ran wizard still says that issue on export

                    update..
                    figured it out had to choose user and the bottom the certs linked and had to link exisit cert... now i can test it at home depot lol

                    hopefully it all works (:

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                      comet424
                      last edited by comet424

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                      @Gertjan
                      ok so i cant seem to connect,,, i was able to connect to my orginal openvpn

                      the 2nd one with my other account its stuck on connecting.. i was able to download the opvn file but when connecting its jus stuck connecting... is there something to check.. i checked that it was basiclly exactly same as the admin one i have setup and i did run the wizard.. but its stuck at connecting.... even if i make up a user using the client software it stays connecting.. if i make up a user on my orginal open vpn it tells me invalid

                      so its not getting to authenticating or what not

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                        comet424
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                        @Gertjan
                        so i got it to log in using the landon account i had to delete the user and re add it then create cert button instead of add cert and then add exisiting cert..

                        but there is issue.. i was getting full access to the network.. so when i got home.. LandonsVM Open VPN didnt get really access.. but it went to the OPENVPN Firewall rules.. it didnt go to the correct firewall rule.. where do i look

                        also everytime i delete the openvpn server, certs,ca, and do the wizard again.. it always saves the rule under OPENVPN not the LandonsVMOpenVPN..
                        but interface is set for it so its going to the wrong firewall rule
                        what do i look for that its going to the wrong rules?

                        interfaces
                        rule3.PNG

                        rules
                        rule2.PNG rule1.PNG

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                          comet424
                          last edited by comet424

                          here is the openvpn server snap shots. maybe something i got configured wrong as its going to the wrong firewall rule

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                          ![server2.PNG] (/assets/uploads/files/1598668037411-server2.png)
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                          cert2.PNG cert1.png

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                            comet424
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                            so i think i kinda know the issue and not sure how to fix..

                            the OpenVPN servers all goto OpenVPN fire wall rules

                            no matter if the Interface (Landons OpenVpn) :opvn5 remote access etc
                            and interfacce (openvpnremote access) :opvn remote access for admin

                            even though it populates it all goes to the OpenVPN firewall rule and not the specific interface rule

                            so i dont know how to modify it to redirect to the proper firewall interface rule

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                              comet424
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                              since i cant delete the OpenVPN firewall tab

                              is there a way to tell it when openvpn server set to interface A to run the rules under A
                              and if someone loges into server set to interface B to run the rules under B
                              i cant seem to get
                              LandonsVMOpenVPN to get the rules keeps going to OpenVPN
                              is there a way to delete OpenVPN firewall rule and that probably force the 2 Interfaces to go to there servers properly

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                                akuma1x @comet424
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                                @comet424 You most likely have to push a static IP address to LANDON, and then make a firewall rule(s) on your openvpn tab for that specific IP address to access stuff - either PASS or BLOCK.

                                Pushing an IP address can be found here:

                                VPN -> OpenVPN -> Client Specific Overrides -> Landon's User Name

                                And then, all the way at the bottom of this windw, in the box called Client Settings -> Advanced, add this text:

                                "ifconfig-push X.X.X.X 255.255.255.0;" without the quotes. For the X parts, assign him a specific IP address, like 1 subnet different than your internal LAN subnet addresses. So, how I do mine at work, LAN = 10.0.1.0/24 and OVPN clients get 10.0.5.X addresses, set in the field above. Everything works perfect like this.

                                Hope that helps!

                                Jeff

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                                  comet424
                                  last edited by comet424

                                  @akuma1x
                                  didnt work still LandonOpenVPN and RemoteAccessVPN (admin) still goes to OpenVPN firewall.. they arent going to the specfic Firewall settings.. why is it defaulting OpenVPN.. id like to delete it.. then it has no choice to goto the proper Interfaces..
                                  and what does the iconfig and and the pushing do? and what if you had 100 users in business would u have to do 100 client specific overrides?

                                  maybe i configuring something wrong.. and i chose 192.168.110.0 since thats what i set for in the openvpn server file page.. i getting frustrated why isnt it going to the specific firewall rule and damn OpenVPN i cant even rename it or add it to interfaces.. its not there
                                  override 2.PNG override 1.PNG notworking.PNG
                                  notwork2.PNG
                                  notwork3.PNG

                                  if i keep deleting the server in openvpn and re create it and set it to the CA cert and server cert.. it keeps adding to OPENVPN not to darn Specific Landon Interface

                                  ive had enough of thos tonight.. 1:15am and i cant get it to go where its supposed to go.. its linked to interface but both VPN Servers wont go to there specific firewall tab ugh
                                  OPENVPN tab isnt even an interface so dont know why its even there as a firewall tab

                                  had enough of it tonight

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                                    comet424
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                                    so im getting confused
                                    i googled. and was reading the netgate docs... it says openvpn can be directed to specific interfaces but really doesnt tell you how to do it..
                                    from what i read all openvpn server connections all go to OpenVpn firewall tab and then needs to be redirected

                                    to sum it up i want
                                    openvpn server 1(admin) ===>OpenVPN firewall tab(redirected)==>AdminOpenvpn Firewall Tab
                                    openvpn server 2(landons) ===>OpenVPN Firewall tab(redirected) ==>LandonOpenVpn Firewall Tab

                                    so i read the custom routes or the push routes etc

                                    but in the negate docs i read " In such cases the OpenVPN tab firewall rules still apply, but there is a separate tab specific to the assigned VPN instance that controls traffic only for that one VPN" but i havent found how to do that

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                                      akuma1x @comet424
                                      last edited by akuma1x

                                      @comet424 Ok STOP, let's start over from the beginning...

                                      On my pfsense box, I have the OpenVPN server setup and running. In these settings, I have setup all of the users that can access the server with user names and passswords. This is done under System -> User Manager -> Users. Create a new user for Landon, and give the user a good password.

                                      screenshot453423.png

                                      Now, because you've already got an OpenVPN server instance created and it's known to work, DELETE the second (or third, or more) one you created specifically for Landon. Make sure all the extra WAN rules you've got for port 1193 are also deleted. And, speaking of WAN rules, I don't see the specific "port 1194" created from the OpenVPN wizard. What happened to that one? There's also a 1196 one in there, too.

                                      You can both technically use the same VPN server connection. On your VPN server, you still want to give Landon a specific IP address, this is how you filter how and where he goes on your internal networks. Please be aware, when you start an OpenVPN server, the system automatically creates a firewall tab called "OpenVPN" in the list. You can add all of your traffic rules right here. You don't have to create extra OpenVPN firewall tabs. Or, for that matter, even activate them as interfaces in pfsense.

                                      The single tab in the screenshot below is what was created from the initial setup wizard, and as you can see, tons of traffic has already passed thru the allow any rule there. That's traffic from about 12 other users, not shown, that have been working from home for 5 months.

                                      So, I just added a new user to my pfsense system, called her "emily". Setup a user name and password for her, like I detailed above. There's a pass any and all rule on my OpenVPN firewall tab, and I put a block rule for emily up at the top to keep her from getting to a server on the LAN network.

                                      screenshot774534.png

                                      Just tested, and it works. This user can login to the OpenVPN server, gets a static address from the system (10.0.5.139), and is BLOCKED from accessing the server at 10.0.1.20 with the single rule I created.

                                      So, in review. 1 OpenVPN server running, I've got many users setup to remote in to use it, but only 1 is blocked from this particular server on LAN. You should be able to do the same, with your user account, and Landon's user account.

                                      Jeff

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                                        comet424
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                                        @akuma1x
                                        so the ports i was using is
                                        1197 site to site openvpn
                                        1196 admin openvpn
                                        1193 was landon openvpn server
                                        1194 was landon openvpn server both i was testing at same time to try to get away from OpenVPN tab and into the corresponding interface

                                        sorry suffering migrain today so i havent worked on it.. rain gives it to me among other issues.. i missed something
                                        ya i like the idea of 1 server make its easier thats why i was hoping grouping worked or source could be user name
                                        as i want admin to have full access to the network.. and landon only right now would have access only to 2 IP address on the network when logged in

                                        and with me being a visual learner, learning disability i gotta
                                        but i missed something where do you link emily user account to 10.0.5.139 do you enter that in her user account credentials? so that be like 192.168.5.139 for mine a random ip address.. so i kinda got lost there how do i get the static ip for each user..
                                        so static ip for admin static ip for landon or any other user..

                                        kind sucks that you make the cert/ca and you can link it in an interface but the vpn tab doesnt go to the interface but the openvpn

                                        so if you could go back a step fo me be great.. on the OpenVPN server gets a statick address from the system (10.0.5.139) that being linked to emily could you explain that better for me like a dummy book

                                        and the part for the custom routes where i added in the other server for landon i had.. the route 192.29.x.x.x 255.x.x.x what did that actually do

                                        and too bad firewall tab for Source didnt have option of "user accounts" so no need for IP just uses a group of user accounts in an alias..

                                        but thats just me.. but ya if you could explain better abovefor me to acheve the ip address.. no rush as i no hurry

                                        i appreciate the help you doing so far. and working with me... i know i no professional so thank you so far for all the help from thje other guys input too

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                                          comet424
                                          last edited by comet424

                                          @akuma1x
                                          so re reading your posts and reading
                                          https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/vpn/openvpn/configuring-a-single-multi-purpose-openvpn-instance.html#:~:text=OpenVPN%20Client%20specific%20overrides,second%20one%20will%20be%2010.33.

                                          and then re reading your posts i think i kinda set it up properly couple spots i think i done it wrong where docs say dont use a ip4 local IP address so dont use my 192.168.0.x

                                          and i confused.. how does my client override link directly to the useraccount landon? im sure i have mistakes but i think its better.. and i hope the images posted in the correct order.. i havent tested it as im not sure how the client override links directly to a user account as i didnt say Useraccount(Landon) = clientoverideaccount anywhere in settings.. maybe you can explain how that works as i got confused reading the docs too

                                          openvpn rules
                                          ok1.PNG
                                          wan rules
                                          ok2.PNG
                                          client override (landon)
                                          ok3.PNG ok4.PNG ok5.PNG

                                          ok6.PNG
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                                          landon account
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                                          forgot i needed to added the block rules here is updated
                                          ok10.PNG

                                          update..
                                          i rechanged the common name for client over write to "Landon" as i guess thats how it links it from reading the description
                                          ok11.PNG

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                                            comet424
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                                            @akuma1x
                                            i ended up wanting to start fresh.. so i deleted the openvpn certs server, ca,cert, usernames and did a clean setup
                                            i still use the openvpn tab for the 192.168.110.5 for user Landon
                                            but i having issue when he logs in it isnt work

                                            for cert override advanced i have it as
                                            ifconfig-push 192.168.110.5 255.255.255.0;

                                            but i thnk i did it wrong?

                                            but i did a clean setup of it all and changed firewall port cleaned up my clutter so not soo messy
                                            i did notice when i deleted the nat rules for 192.168.110.x it diddnt get created when i ran the openvpn wizard.. do i need them

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