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    • stephenw10S Offline
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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      Can we see an example in a pcap?

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        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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        @Topogigio said in pfSense sends packet as 0.0.0.0:

        but is seems having trouble connecting to Internet.

        In what manner? Are you saying it can not check for updates? Unbound is not working... What is not working.. Other than when you do a manual ping, you say you see source of all zeros? When you don't pick an interface?

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          Topogigio @johnpoz
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          @johnpoz I noticed the problem because it was unable to populate the available package list..
          So I noticed that it was unable to resolve DNS, then that was unable to ping, and so on.
          After the outpoing NAT rule I added as workaround all started to work.

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            so when you remove that rule, it doesn't work anymore? Or maybe unbound just had an issue? If you can not resolve.. Did you see dns traffic going out with all zeros as source?

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              jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
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              1. You should never have an outbound NAT rule with a source of any -- fix that before anything else. You are in hybrid mode so it's unnecessary anyhow.
              2. Let's see the pcap, or a screenshot of it loaded in wireshark
              3. What shows up in Diagnostics > States for the traffic that is sourced as 0.0.0.0?

              The last time this happened there was something unusual on the user's setup, though I can't remember what it was. I want to say maybe it was an IPv6-only IPsec VTI instance but I'm probably misremembering.

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                Topogigio @johnpoz
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                @johnpoz If I remove that rule, it does not work anymore. If I remove that rule I see traffic (ICMP request for example) from pfSense with 0.0.0.0 as source. Only traffic from pfSense itself, not traffic from other hosts routed through it.

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                  Topogigio @jimp
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                  @jimp

                  • I know it. I added it as workaround, without that pfSense is unable to contact the world to resolve DNS or download updates.
                  • sorry, a pcap from where? I have access to pfSense and nothing else on the external side.

                  From the pfSense:

                  PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8): 56 data bytes

                  --- 8.8.8.8 ping statistics ---
                  3 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss

                  15:37:32.819751 IP 0.0.0.0 > 8.8.8.8: ICMP echo request, id 32851, seq 0, length 64
                  15:37:33.830224 IP 0.0.0.0 > 8.8.8.8: ICMP echo request, id 32851, seq 1, length 64
                  15:37:34.840837 IP 0.0.0.0 > 8.8.8.8: ICMP echo request, id 32851, seq 2, length 64

                  states: I cannot find anything related to 8.8.8.8

                  I have IPSEC VTI interfaces, but I'm sure that the problem has started AFTER I configured them (because I required OSPF so I installed the package after the VPNs were connected. However can be something there, I agree. But I cannot understand why and what..

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                    No states shown for 0.0.0.0 either?

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                      Topogigio @stephenw10
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                      @stephenw10 sorry, found:

                      WAN icmp 0.0.0.0:25462 -> 8.8.8.8:25462 0:0 3 / 0 252 B / 0 B

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                        Show the entire output of ifconfig -a and netstat -rn.

                        Something is broken in your setup and it's not NAT. The NAT is hiding the real issue.

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                          @jimp Routing tables

                          Internet:
                          Destination Gateway Flags Netif Expire
                          default X.X.X.254 UGS hn0
                          10.0.0.0/24 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          10.0.1.0/24 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          10.0.2.0/24 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          10.20.0.0/22 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          10.40.0.0/25 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          10.40.0.0/24 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          10.40.0.128/25 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          10.77.32.0/26 link#6 U hn1
                          10.77.32.1 link#6 UHS lo0
                          10.77.32.64/26 link#7 U hn2
                          10.77.32.65 link#7 UHS lo0
                          10.77.36.1 link#8 UH ipsec100
                          10.77.36.2 link#8 UHS lo0
                          10.77.36.5 link#9 UH ipsec200
                          10.77.36.6 link#9 UHS lo0
                          X.X.X.104 link#5 UHS lo0
                          X.X.X.104/32 link#5 U hn0
                          X.X.X.105 link#5 UHS lo0
                          X.X.X.105/32 link#5 U hn0
                          X.X.X.106 link#5 UHS lo0
                          X.X.X.106/32 link#5 U hn0
                          X.X.X.40/30 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          X.X.X.84/30 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          X.X.X.246 X.X.X.254 UGHS hn0
                          X.X.X.38 X.X.X.254 UGHS hn0
                          127.0.0.1 link#1 UH lo0
                          X.X.X.254 02:00:00:5f:28:ad UHS hn0
                          172.16.0.0/22 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          172.19.0.0/16 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          172.19.16.64/26 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          172.19.32.0/20 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          172.26.0.0/16 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          172.27.0.0/16 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          172.27.64.0/19 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          172.29.0.0/16 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          172.30.94.0/26 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          172.30.94.64/26 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          172.30.94.128/26 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          172.30.96.0/24 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          172.30.98.0/24 10.77.36.1 UGS ipsec100
                          172.30.99.0/24 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          172.30.252.0/24 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          172.30.254.1/32 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          172.30.254.2/32 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          172.30.254.11/32 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          172.30.254.12/32 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          172.30.254.13/32 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          172.30.254.14/32 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          172.30.254.15/32 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          172.30.254.16/32 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          172.30.254.28/32 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          172.30.254.29/32 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          172.30.254.34/32 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          172.30.254.35/32 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          172.30.254.46/32 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          172.30.254.47/32 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          172.30.254.53/32 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          172.30.254.54/32 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          172.30.254.55/32 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          172.30.254.56/32 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          172.30.254.59/32 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          172.30.254.60/32 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          172.30.254.63/32 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          172.30.254.64/32 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          172.30.254.71/32 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          172.30.254.72/32 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          172.30.254.73/32 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          172.30.254.74/32 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          172.30.254.76/30 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          172.30.254.80/30 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          172.160.10.0/24 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          192.168.0.0/24 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          192.168.1.0/24 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          192.168.2.0/24 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          192.168.19.0/24 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          192.168.21.0/24 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          192.168.22.0/24 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          192.168.24.0/24 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          192.168.29.0/24 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          192.168.32.0/24 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          192.168.33.0/24 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          192.168.34.0/24 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          192.168.41.0/24 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          192.168.47.0/24 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          192.168.51.0/24 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          192.168.52.0/24 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          192.168.96.0/24 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          192.168.97.0/26 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          192.168.97.64/26 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          192.168.100.0/24 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          192.168.103.192/26 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          192.168.190.0/24 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          195.43.163.9/32 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100
                          195.43.178.150/32 10.77.36.1 UG1 ipsec100

                          Internet6:
                          Destination Gateway Flags Netif Expire
                          ::1 link#1 UH lo0
                          fe80::%lo0/64 link#1 U lo0
                          fe80::1%lo0 link#1 UHS lo0
                          fe80::%hn0/64 link#5 U hn0
                          fe80::ff:fe5f:28ad%hn0 link#5 UHS lo0
                          fe80::%hn1/64 link#6 U hn1
                          fe80::215:5dff:fe5a:1601%hn1 link#6 UHS lo0
                          fe80::%hn2/64 link#7 U hn2
                          fe80::215:5dff:fe5a:1602%hn2 link#7 UHS lo0
                          fe80::%ipsec1000/64 link#8 U ipsec100
                          fe80::215:5dff:fe5a:1601%ipsec1000 link#8 UHS lo0
                          fe80::%ipsec2000/64 link#9 U ipsec200
                          fe80::215:5dff:fe5a:1601%ipsec2000 link#9 UHS lo0

                          Shell Output - ifconfig -a

                          lo0: flags=8049<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 16384
                          options=680003<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,LINKSTATE,RXCSUM_IPV6,TXCSUM_IPV6>
                          inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
                          inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
                          inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000
                          nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
                          groups: lo
                          enc0: flags=41<UP,RUNNING> metric 0 mtu 1536
                          nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
                          groups: enc
                          pfsync0: flags=0<> metric 0 mtu 1500
                          groups: pfsync
                          pflog0: flags=100<PROMISC> metric 0 mtu 33160
                          groups: pflog
                          hn0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500
                          options=48001b<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,LINKSTATE,TXCSUM_IPV6>
                          ether 02:00:00:5f:28:ad
                          hwaddr 02:00:00:5f:28:ad
                          inet6 fe80::ff:fe5f:28ad%hn0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x5
                          inet X.X.X.104 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast X.X.X.104
                          inet X.X.X.105 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast X.X.X.105
                          inet X.X.X.106 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast X.X.X.106
                          nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
                          media: Ethernet autoselect (10Gbase-T <full-duplex>)
                          status: active
                          hn1: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500
                          options=48001b<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,LINKSTATE,TXCSUM_IPV6>
                          ether 00:15:5d:5a:16:01
                          hwaddr 00:15:5d:5a:16:01
                          inet6 fe80::215:5dff:fe5a:1601%hn1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x6
                          inet 10.77.32.1 netmask 0xffffffc0 broadcast 10.77.32.63
                          nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
                          media: Ethernet autoselect (10Gbase-T <full-duplex>)
                          status: active
                          hn2: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500
                          options=48001b<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,LINKSTATE,TXCSUM_IPV6>
                          ether 00:15:5d:5a:16:02
                          hwaddr 00:15:5d:5a:16:02
                          inet6 fe80::215:5dff:fe5a:1602%hn2 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x7
                          inet 10.77.32.65 netmask 0xffffffc0 broadcast 10.77.32.127
                          nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
                          media: Ethernet autoselect (10Gbase-T <full-duplex>)
                          status: active
                          ipsec1000: flags=8051<UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1422
                          tunnel inet X.X.X.104 --> X.X.X.246
                          inet6 fe80::215:5dff:fe5a:1601%ipsec1000 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x8
                          inet 10.77.36.2 --> 10.77.36.1 netmask 0xfffffffc
                          nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
                          reqid: 1000
                          groups: ipsec
                          ipsec2000: flags=8051<UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1438
                          tunnel inet X.X.X.104 --> X.X.X.38
                          inet6 fe80::215:5dff:fe5a:1601%ipsec2000 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x9
                          inet 10.77.36.6 --> 10.77.36.5 netmask 0xfffffffc
                          nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
                          reqid: 2000
                          groups: ipsec

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                            Were you able to resolve the issue? I ask because I have a similar problem but specific to a VPN VTI. At my home, I setup an IPsec VTI connection to a fresh EdgeRouter. My Local/Remote subnet is 192.168.51.1/30. However, I noticed the P2 negotiates 0.0.0.0/0 for local/remote.

                            With Static routes setup, my PC can ping the router and connect to anything on the internet. Exactly as I want and expect. However, pfSense cannot ping. Packet capture shows exactly what you have as 0.0.0.0 source and therefor fails.

                            This wouldn't be a huge problem except that Gateway-Monitor is broken because it can't ping. Now I realize that without GW-Mon, Firewall rules that have a specified GW get skipped. Even when GW-Mon option is disabled and is supposed to be treated as "always online".

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                              @Ziomalski said in pfSense sends packet as 0.0.0.0:

                              I noticed the P2 negotiates 0.0.0.0/0 for local/remote.

                              That is normal for VTI and not related to this isssue.

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