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    Port 443 timeout using Netcat but is working in browser

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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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      Did you turn off the 80 redirect on pfsense? pfsense will attempt to redirect traffic to "it" on 80 to its ssl port.

      If browsers and clients working - then what is the problem?

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        Frogg
        last edited by Frogg

        What do you mean by turn off 80 redirect ?
        There is the NAT on *:80 WAN to 192.168.1.4:80 LAN with firewall rules for it.
        The PFSense Web site is on port 8080 https.

        The trouble come from network supervision like Zabbix:

        2:58:54  High   PROBLEM   Service web https is down on 
        12:58:52 High   PROBLEM   Service web https is down on 	
        12:58:50 High   PROBLEM   Service web https is down on 
        ....
        

        And other test cant be done like SSL days left on validity for exemple

        With classical NAT (physical router) this same schema is working. I really fell like PFSense is blocking the response for a reason i don't know

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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          It wouldn't be "blocking" do a sniff.. Clearly there is a response since you say browsers and clients work.

          But they might be more forgiving if response comes from different mac - asymmetrical.

          redirect.png

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            Frogg
            last edited by Frogg

            Thanks,

            i missed this one, now all port doesn't not respond (but it is ok)

            I just saw something:
            Netcat is working as it should for external network, and all is ok

            ExcAst:~ # nc -v domain.com 443
            Connection to domain.com 443 port [tcp/https] succeeded!
            
            ExcAst:~ # nc -v domain.com 80
            Connection to domain.com 80 port [tcp/http] succeeded!
            
            ExcAst:~ # nc -v domain.com 777
            Connection to domain.com 777 port [tcp/multiling-http] succeeded!
            SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_7.2p2 Ubuntu-4ubuntu2.8
            

            The problem come from internal netcat request (LAN)

            maybe it is link to this:

            DNS fwd/rev mismatch: domain.com != machinedomain
            

            Websites are working in Lan browsers

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            • johnpozJ
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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              @Frogg said in Port 443 timeout using Netcat but is working in browser:

              DNS fwd/rev mismatch: domain.com != machinedomain

              which is why what your doing is not the correct solution.. What you should be doing is dns resolution to access your machines via their local IPs vs nat reflection..

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                Frogg
                last edited by

                Do you have any clue on how i could achieve something like that ?

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                • johnpozJ
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                  last edited by

                  Yeah a simple host override so that whatever.domain.tld resolves to the actual local IP you want 192.168.1.4 I take it.

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                    Frogg
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                    I added the domain name to the local 192.168.1.4 machine if i check /etc/hostname i get the domain name

                    But i don't think it would fix it has the domain name in the comparaison il the host xx.xx.xx.xx.rev.poneytelecom.eu reverse DNS

                    Or i am really missing something

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                    • johnpozJ
                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                      last edited by johnpoz

                      On pfsense create a host override - your clients point to pfsense for dns right?

                      So whatever.domain.tld points to your local IP 192.168.1.4, and then the ptr for 192.168.1.4 would also resolve to that..

                      hostover.png

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                        Frogg
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                        Thanks for the help,
                        but i fill like i am lacking of knowledge on this part.

                        In network config of 192.168.1.4 (and all local machines) i use 192.168.1.1 as DNS

                        In the interface DNS resolver was disabled, so i enabled it and added the Host Overrides

                        Dig domain.com

                        ;; ANSWER SECTION:
                        domain.com      960     IN      A       internetIp
                        

                        Dig - x domain.com

                        ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
                        in-addr.arpa.           3600    IN      SOA     b.in-addr-servers.arpa. nstld.iana.org. 2020081164 1800 900 604800 3600
                        

                        i think i am missing something to have the same result as yours

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                        • johnpozJ
                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                          last edited by johnpoz

                          @Frogg said in Port 443 timeout using Netcat but is working in browser:

                          i use 192.168.1.1 as DNS

                          And what is that? Is that not pfsense? This only works if what your using for dns for your local network actually ends up asking pfsense.. So the host override can be returned.

                          If your network is using 192.168.1.1 for dns, then setup your dns records there.

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                            Frogg
                            last edited by Frogg

                            Yes 192.168.1.1 is PFSense
                            Maybe it require a reboot, i ll give a try

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                            • johnpozJ
                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                              last edited by johnpoz

                              You said the resolver was disabled - where you using forwarder (dnsmasq) If so then the host override would be setup there and not in the resolver (unbound). Both forwarder and resolver allow for host overrides. Set the override in whichever one your using.

                              You only can have either or running forwarder or resolver. You can not run both listening on 53.

                              A reboot is not required that is for sure.. But you may have issue with local caching on the client, so you would have to flush the local dns cache of whatever client your testing from.

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                                Frogg
                                last edited by Frogg

                                Thanks again for the help!

                                Forwarder & Resolver (Now changed to enabled) was disabled

                                It seems i am using the default cache (so it should be flushed with reboot)

                                systemd-resolve --flush-caches
                                Failed to flush caches: Unit dbus-org.freedesktop.resolve1.service not found.
                                

                                After reboot result is the same

                                any idea ?

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                                • johnpozJ
                                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                  last edited by johnpoz

                                  @Frogg said in Port 443 timeout using Netcat but is working in browser:

                                  Forwarder & Resolver (Now changed to enabled) was disabled

                                  Huh? You can not use both at the same time.. You run into a race condition.. Which one are you using? Place your host override in the one your using.. They both allow for overrides.

                                  Do a directed query to pfsense to validate it returns your records you put in host override..

                                  C:\>dig @192.168.9.253 ahost.domain.tld
                                  
                                  ; <<>> DiG 9.16.6 <<>> @192.168.9.253 ahost.domain.tld
                                  ; (1 server found)
                                  ;; global options: +cmd
                                  ;; Got answer:
                                  ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 8719
                                  ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1
                                  
                                  ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
                                  ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
                                  ;; QUESTION SECTION:
                                  ;ahost.domain.tld.              IN      A
                                  
                                  ;; ANSWER SECTION:
                                  ahost.domain.tld.       3600    IN      A       192.168.1.4
                                  
                                  ;; Query time: 0 msec
                                  ;; SERVER: 192.168.9.253#53(192.168.9.253)
                                  ;; WHEN: Tue Sep 08 13:40:59 Central Daylight Time 2020
                                  ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 61
                                  
                                  
                                  C:\>nslookup
                                  Default Server:  pi-hole.local.lan
                                  Address:  192.168.3.10
                                  
                                  > server 192.168.9.253
                                  Default Server:  sg4860.local.lan
                                  Address:  192.168.9.253
                                  
                                  > ahost.domain.tld
                                  Server:  sg4860.local.lan
                                  Address:  192.168.9.253
                                  
                                  Name:    ahost.domain.tld
                                  Address:  192.168.1.4
                                  
                                  

                                  Pfsense in my case is 192.168.9.253

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