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    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
    last edited by Sep 17, 2020, 2:00 PM

    I don't have a switch - but quick google shows lots of people complaining that it DIDN'T support enterprise, and there was a feature request for it. When did they add it?

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      JeGr LAYER 8 Moderator
      last edited by Sep 17, 2020, 2:04 PM

      Ah my bad. Kids didn't say anything and just hooked it into the media WiFi (which isn't that bad) but I thought they were entering their account :) It's indeed not supported. sigh
      Yeah... Nintendo isn't that good with network stuff so I could've known 🙄

      OK second SSID has to stay... for now :D

      Don't forget to upvote 👍 those who kindly offered their time and brainpower to help you!

      If you're interested, I'm available to discuss details of German-speaking paid support (for companies) if needed.

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        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
        last edited by Sep 17, 2020, 2:16 PM

        Yeah enterprise has way more variables and complications in supporting it.. Iot devices and game systems, etc. etc.. Not meant for the enterprise - and what .00001% of homes might run enterprise.. Because someone in the home is a IT person or nerd/geek..

        I just don't see these sorts of devices supporting it.. They have had years and years already to bring support to the table - and nothing..

        I just don't think you could run a smart home with wifi devices without psk wifi.. I would love to see every device support enterprise.. But I just do not see it happening on any more than a few niche devices. And prob only thing when they are actually used in enterprise or setting where enterprise is used over psk.. Like a school..

        If any device has call for it to support enterprise you would think it the switch because of all the kids at uni, and uni wifi is almost always enterprise based for auth.

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          Qinn
          last edited by Qinn Sep 17, 2020, 2:26 PM Sep 17, 2020, 2:25 PM

          Maybe I am swearing in church, but it seems rather a big risk when all your devices (as in hardware) are being controlled by the same piece of software...

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            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
            last edited by Sep 17, 2020, 2:26 PM

            Huh???

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              Qinn
              last edited by Qinn Sep 17, 2020, 2:29 PM Sep 17, 2020, 2:28 PM

              Well, just what it reads

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                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                last edited by johnpoz Sep 17, 2020, 2:30 PM Sep 17, 2020, 2:30 PM

                What reads, what software? Your off on a non-sequitur again

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                  Qinn
                  last edited by Sep 17, 2020, 2:31 PM

                  We still are discussing the Unifi controller version 6.0.20 and the mess it made not?

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                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                    last edited by johnpoz Sep 17, 2020, 2:40 PM Sep 17, 2020, 2:36 PM

                    Mess they made of what their "beta" interface? How is that big risk?

                    If you don't want to run "beta" then don't run it.. You do not have to use that interface in the 6.x line - you can use legacy stuff.

                    They do make changes and feature changes that are not related to the "new" settings interface..

                    I don't people running this are in a Enterprise where if the wireless went down he would loose his job ;)

                    If something breaks because you try something - then just roll back.. Not like that is difficult to do, etc.

                    My main point about a mess - was more related to the actual interface.. Its horrible to navigate, why should I want to click into 17 different child menus to get somewhere? Its kind of like MS trying to get away from control panel in windows, with their new settings guis - but they are missing some, and some are missing features so you have to do those in control panel still, etc.

                    They have had YEARS to fix that mess - and they are still dicking with it.. So guess you shouldn't be running windows because its too much risk ;) Because how you change this setting has moved ;)

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                      Qinn @johnpoz
                      last edited by Sep 17, 2020, 2:42 PM

                      @johnpoz This is a stable release https://community.ui.com/releases/UniFi-Network-Controller-6-0-20/3ddd1684-6747-4a66-a038-5ff0b25f4027 not a beta.

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                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                        last edited by johnpoz Sep 17, 2020, 2:44 PM Sep 17, 2020, 2:43 PM

                        The "new" settings interface is still "beta" If they weren't then you wouldn't have to switch to them - they would be what is used out of the box ;)

                        Its in the first few lines of the release notes ;)

                        Introduce Beta Dashboard for UDM.
                        Implement Real-Time statistics for UDM.
                        Preview new Beta Settings.
                        

                        Introduce, Preview these are not "stable" anything...

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                          Qinn @johnpoz
                          last edited by Sep 17, 2020, 2:49 PM

                          @johnpoz That can be, but this version 6.0.20 was in the releases and should therefor be considered stable. The beta's you can only access when you login.

                          In the community many are complaining that this was only a few days in beta and then released.

                          https://community.ui.com/releases/UniFi-Network-Controller-6-0-22/910ceffc-f0e9-4518-86c1-df5eeee34695

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                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                            last edited by Sep 17, 2020, 2:54 PM

                            Unifi and their calling of something stable, beta, alpha, test has always been a moving target..

                            They have changed what they call what, they have changed their repo's multiple times, etc. etc..

                            But yet again - just because I have beta or preview "features or options" in some software doesn't mean that the base software can not be considered "stable" or released version, etc..

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                              mcury
                              last edited by Nov 6, 2020, 8:29 PM

                              New beta version available.. a guy updated an "essential lab", remotely, without reading previous posts, and bricked his "essential lab", kkkkkkkkk

                              https://community.ui.com/releases/UAP-USW-Firmware-5-43-3-12409/8bbea77b-5b54-4ae9-b98f-121884c91646#comment/5c7c6533-42fc-4b15-8dc4-fbd697619208

                              dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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                                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                last edited by johnpoz Nov 6, 2020, 8:38 PM Nov 6, 2020, 8:32 PM

                                I have all 3 of my AP running on that version already - no issues.

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                                And on the new 6.1.25 controller as well.

                                People are just stupid sometimes.. WHY and the F would you update a remote site to anything beta if no way to recover if something goes wrong?

                                Shoot I have not updated couple of my sg3100 to 2.4.5p1 because nobody is in the office currently that could do anything if something went wrong..

                                Stuff could and can does go wrong - even with the most stable of updates.. That you would risk and update on remote equipment with no way to recover is just rolling the dice hoping not to throw craps.. Sure you might hit that hard eight.. But could also come up snake eyes - then what? ;) Your F'd!!!

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                                  mcury @johnpoz
                                  last edited by Nov 6, 2020, 8:40 PM

                                  @johnpoz Exactly !!
                                  People are insane, now he is blaming ubnt saying that time is money, kkkkkkkk

                                  This is a real lab, my house 😅
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                                  dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                    last edited by Nov 6, 2020, 8:42 PM

                                    He has nobody to blame but himself that is for sure.. Shit I don't update my home shit without backup plan.. My controller runs on VM, I always take a snapshot before doing update - so I can rollback in like 30 seconds..

                                    And I update the APs 1 at a time.. So worse case I only loose 1 AP out of 3, etc.

                                    People like that should not be allowed to touch networking equipment ;)

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                                      mcury @johnpoz
                                      last edited by Nov 6, 2020, 8:44 PM

                                      @johnpoz kkkkkk, definitely I wouldn't hire him.. :)

                                      Me too, I run my controller in a raspberry, once a week I copy the entire sd card to a .img

                                      dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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                                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                        last edited by Nov 6, 2020, 8:51 PM

                                        Shoot when I update my switches firmware, I always double check that I have the console cable handy.. And console in to make sure that is working before I update.. And have never had any issues ever with them - and still make sure I have a backup plan..

                                        How did such a thing ever get through change control? ;) This clearly is not a lab in some home..

                                        You want to do what remotely? Even the non tech people on cab would know doing such a thing is a bad idea ;) What exactly is this update going to fix? Why do we need to update to it - can it not wait until people are back on site.. Is something down? etc. etc.

                                        Shit I have been asked how I would rollback a reboot.. Do we have a time machine? ;) No I can not rollback a reboot ;)

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                                          mcury @johnpoz
                                          last edited by Nov 6, 2020, 8:55 PM

                                          @johnpoz He learned a lesson today, it wasn't the best way to learn, but he will never forget, that's for sure :)

                                          dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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