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Problems Installing or Upgrading pfSense Software
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    NOCling
    last edited by Sep 22, 2020, 7:03 PM

    First try and first play, use a VM and go for a Setup and try some Rules, Packages, etc.

    For a real Setup and produtic using, ip prefered the hardware appliance.

    Personally, I'm a fan of appliances and I use an SG-3100 and an SG-1100 remote on my parents' house to use a nice S2S IPSec tunnel for NAS backups.

    Netgate 6100 & Netgate 2100

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      akuma1x @pmadem
      last edited by Sep 22, 2020, 11:05 PM

      @pmadem You can try it, but you're going to have to run VLAN's if there's only 1 network port on that NUC. Do you have a smart/managed switch that can also run VLAN's?

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z59_MWWPL-Q

      Jeff

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        netblues @akuma1x
        last edited by Sep 23, 2020, 4:33 AM

        @akuma1x Depends on your speed needs.
        nucs use realtek nic and is fine for speeds up to 300mbi.
        Anything above that is problematic

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          pmadem
          last edited by Sep 23, 2020, 7:38 PM

          Thanks All . I have Google wifi with mesh network . I believe if I had to use the dedicated hardware such as SG 1100/SG 2100 I will have to disable the mesh and configure the google wifi as bridge ,right ? Are there any options wher I can use the mesh network and also a dedicatted hardware such as SG 1100 to run pfsense ?

          @NOCling : Great idea to use for secure NAS backups

          @akuma1x : No ,I do not have a smart/managed switch that can run VLANS

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            akuma1x @pmadem
            last edited by Sep 24, 2020, 12:35 AM

            @pmadem How many physical network ports does your NUC have? If only 1, I'm almost positive that you still have to run a smart/managed switch to make this work, VM virtualized or not.

            Jeff

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              DaddyGo @netblues
              last edited by Sep 24, 2020, 6:10 PM

              @netblues said in Hardware recommendations:

              nucs use realtek nic and is fine for speeds up to 300mbi.

              I would be surprised, if it were a Realtek part in a factory Intel product. 😉

              Cats bury it so they can't see it!
              (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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                netblues @DaddyGo
                last edited by Sep 24, 2020, 6:14 PM

                @DaddyGo Original nuc's by intel utilize realtec single port gigabit ethernet adapters

                Confirmed in many occasions

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                  DaddyGo @netblues
                  last edited by Sep 25, 2020, 8:23 AM

                  @netblues said in Hardware recommendations:

                  Original nuc's by intel utilize realtec single port gigabit ethernet adapters
                  Confirmed in many occasions

                  ????????

                  You're just kidding me, aren't you?
                  That would be a terrible thing for Intel, I think you could see some fake Chinese NUC.
                  Fortunately, I have already worked and are still using NUCs in our installations for thin clients.

                  I can help you learn more about what is in NUC as PHY:

                  Intel i219-V and wireless AC-8265
                  (Believe me in all Intel NUCs, that's right -
                  possibly - i211)

                  login-to-view

                  btw:
                  Realtek, spelled correctly, not with "c"
                  https://www.realtek.com/en/

                  Cats bury it so they can't see it!
                  (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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                    netblues @DaddyGo
                    last edited by Sep 25, 2020, 8:28 AM

                    @DaddyGo Maybe on the bigger models...
                    We are talking about original sealed boxes, bought through official distributors.
                    Here you go

                    lspci
                    00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series SoC Transaction Register (rev 35)
                    00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 35)
                    00:10.0 SD Host controller: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series MMC Controller (rev 35)
                    00:13.0 SATA controller: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series SATA Controller (rev 35)
                    00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series USB xHCI Controller (rev 35)
                    00:1a.0 Encryption controller: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series Trusted Execution Engine (rev 35)
                    00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series High Definition Audio Controller (rev 35)
                    00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series PCI Express Port #1 (rev 35)
                    00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series PCI Express Port #2 (rev 35)
                    00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series PCI Express Port #4 (rev 35)
                    00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series PCU (rev 35)
                    00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx SMBus Controller (rev 35)
                    01:00.0 Unassigned class [ff00]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTS522A PCI Express Card Reader (rev 01)
                    02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 3160 (rev 83)
                    03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 15)

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                      DaddyGo @netblues
                      last edited by DaddyGo Sep 25, 2020, 8:40 AM Sep 25, 2020, 8:36 AM

                      @netblues said in Hardware recommendations:

                      Here you go

                      This HW, now you are presenting just a toy box, sorry...
                      (and a fairly old edition)

                      You are not reading the OP's message properly

                      @pmadem "I have a Intel 10th gen i7 NUC with proxmox up and running ."

                      well it's no longer a "toy" box, ergo Intel PHY should be in it

                      ++++edit:
                      The quality of Realtek used to be acceptable, but today they do terrible things, pls. forget it...😉

                      Cats bury it so they can't see it!
                      (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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                        netblues
                        last edited by Sep 25, 2020, 8:54 AM

                        What I said is that some original nuc's come with realtek lan adapters. This is a fact.
                        One should check to see what's inside.
                        Since Intel does it, it needs to be verified.
                        As for realtek lan and freebsd issues, its a well known issue.

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                          DaddyGo @netblues
                          last edited by DaddyGo Sep 25, 2020, 9:03 AM Sep 25, 2020, 8:55 AM

                          @netblues

                          Fact...
                          have a nice weekend

                          +++edit:
                          Correctly, Realtek PHY, because the acronym "LAN" can be misleading, as it provides poor performance on any interface

                          f.e.: WAN, LAN, OPT1, OPT2, etc. - or whatever you want WLAN, DMZ, IoT..........

                          And it's not just in FreeBSD, pls. avoid Realtek chip-based NICs everywhere 😉

                          Cats bury it so they can't see it!
                          (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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                            tman222
                            last edited by Sep 25, 2020, 12:48 PM

                            I've got one of these sitting in a spare parts bin somewhere - was a great little box (until its purpose was replaced by a VM), but the Realtek NIC was a bit of a sore spot (look under I/O Specifications):

                            https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/boards-kits/nuc/kits/nuc7pjyh.html

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                              DaddyGo @tman222
                              last edited by Sep 25, 2020, 1:29 PM

                              @tman222 said in Hardware recommendations:

                              was a great little box

                              Yes I like NUCs, but we're talking about Intel Core i .... platform (10Gen)

                              Not about the cheap version, which is Intel® Pentium® Silver Processor Series and moreover Q4'17

                              but I think the our opinion about Realtek - doesn't change from that yet 😉

                              BTW:
                              the OP clearly described what kind of NUC it had - - Realtek PHY is definitely not there

                              Cats bury it so they can't see it!
                              (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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                                pmadem @akuma1x
                                last edited by Sep 25, 2020, 2:46 PM

                                @akuma1x Yes , I only have one LAN port on the NUC

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                                  pmadem
                                  last edited by Sep 25, 2020, 2:51 PM

                                  Here's a link to check the specifications for the NUC that I have :

                                  https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/188811/intel-nuc-10-performance-kit-nuc10i7fnh.html

                                  Integrated LAN Intel® Ethernet Connection I219-V

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                                    akuma1x @pmadem
                                    last edited by Sep 25, 2020, 3:00 PM

                                    @pmadem The Intel i219-V is reported to work just fine with pfsense, and I'm assuming FreeBSD. But, since it's got only 1 single network port, you're still going to need a smart/managed switch to make this project work.

                                    Jeff

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                                      pmadem @akuma1x
                                      last edited by Sep 25, 2020, 3:16 PM

                                      @akuma1x Thanks Jeff ! I m trying to find a good managed switch . Do you have any recommendations ?

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                                        akuma1x @pmadem
                                        last edited by Sep 25, 2020, 11:58 PM

                                        @pmadem What's the size of your network, how many WIRED devices?

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                                          pmadem @akuma1x
                                          last edited by Sep 26, 2020, 12:18 AM

                                          @akuma1x I have around 10 wired devices currently but also would like to have some extra room for some wired devices

                                          Thanks !

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