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Problems Installing or Upgrading pfSense Software
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    pmadem
    last edited by Sep 23, 2020, 7:38 PM

    Thanks All . I have Google wifi with mesh network . I believe if I had to use the dedicated hardware such as SG 1100/SG 2100 I will have to disable the mesh and configure the google wifi as bridge ,right ? Are there any options wher I can use the mesh network and also a dedicatted hardware such as SG 1100 to run pfsense ?

    @NOCling : Great idea to use for secure NAS backups

    @akuma1x : No ,I do not have a smart/managed switch that can run VLANS

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      akuma1x @pmadem
      last edited by Sep 24, 2020, 12:35 AM

      @pmadem How many physical network ports does your NUC have? If only 1, I'm almost positive that you still have to run a smart/managed switch to make this work, VM virtualized or not.

      Jeff

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        DaddyGo @netblues
        last edited by Sep 24, 2020, 6:10 PM

        @netblues said in Hardware recommendations:

        nucs use realtek nic and is fine for speeds up to 300mbi.

        I would be surprised, if it were a Realtek part in a factory Intel product. ๐Ÿ˜‰

        Cats bury it so they can't see it!
        (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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          netblues @DaddyGo
          last edited by Sep 24, 2020, 6:14 PM

          @DaddyGo Original nuc's by intel utilize realtec single port gigabit ethernet adapters

          Confirmed in many occasions

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            DaddyGo @netblues
            last edited by Sep 25, 2020, 8:23 AM

            @netblues said in Hardware recommendations:

            Original nuc's by intel utilize realtec single port gigabit ethernet adapters
            Confirmed in many occasions

            ????????

            You're just kidding me, aren't you?
            That would be a terrible thing for Intel, I think you could see some fake Chinese NUC.
            Fortunately, I have already worked and are still using NUCs in our installations for thin clients.

            I can help you learn more about what is in NUC as PHY:

            Intel i219-V and wireless AC-8265
            (Believe me in all Intel NUCs, that's right -
            possibly - i211)

            login-to-view

            btw:
            Realtek, spelled correctly, not with "c"
            https://www.realtek.com/en/

            Cats bury it so they can't see it!
            (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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              netblues @DaddyGo
              last edited by Sep 25, 2020, 8:28 AM

              @DaddyGo Maybe on the bigger models...
              We are talking about original sealed boxes, bought through official distributors.
              Here you go

              lspci
              00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series SoC Transaction Register (rev 35)
              00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 35)
              00:10.0 SD Host controller: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series MMC Controller (rev 35)
              00:13.0 SATA controller: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series SATA Controller (rev 35)
              00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series USB xHCI Controller (rev 35)
              00:1a.0 Encryption controller: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series Trusted Execution Engine (rev 35)
              00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series High Definition Audio Controller (rev 35)
              00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series PCI Express Port #1 (rev 35)
              00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series PCI Express Port #2 (rev 35)
              00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series PCI Express Port #4 (rev 35)
              00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series PCU (rev 35)
              00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx SMBus Controller (rev 35)
              01:00.0 Unassigned class [ff00]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTS522A PCI Express Card Reader (rev 01)
              02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 3160 (rev 83)
              03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 15)

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                DaddyGo @netblues
                last edited by DaddyGo Sep 25, 2020, 8:40 AM Sep 25, 2020, 8:36 AM

                @netblues said in Hardware recommendations:

                Here you go

                This HW, now you are presenting just a toy box, sorry...
                (and a fairly old edition)

                You are not reading the OP's message properly

                @pmadem "I have a Intel 10th gen i7 NUC with proxmox up and running ."

                well it's no longer a "toy" box, ergo Intel PHY should be in it

                ++++edit:
                The quality of Realtek used to be acceptable, but today they do terrible things, pls. forget it...๐Ÿ˜‰

                Cats bury it so they can't see it!
                (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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                  netblues
                  last edited by Sep 25, 2020, 8:54 AM

                  What I said is that some original nuc's come with realtek lan adapters. This is a fact.
                  One should check to see what's inside.
                  Since Intel does it, it needs to be verified.
                  As for realtek lan and freebsd issues, its a well known issue.

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                    DaddyGo @netblues
                    last edited by DaddyGo Sep 25, 2020, 9:03 AM Sep 25, 2020, 8:55 AM

                    @netblues

                    Fact...
                    have a nice weekend

                    +++edit:
                    Correctly, Realtek PHY, because the acronym "LAN" can be misleading, as it provides poor performance on any interface

                    f.e.: WAN, LAN, OPT1, OPT2, etc. - or whatever you want WLAN, DMZ, IoT..........

                    And it's not just in FreeBSD, pls. avoid Realtek chip-based NICs everywhere ๐Ÿ˜‰

                    Cats bury it so they can't see it!
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                      tman222
                      last edited by Sep 25, 2020, 12:48 PM

                      I've got one of these sitting in a spare parts bin somewhere - was a great little box (until its purpose was replaced by a VM), but the Realtek NIC was a bit of a sore spot (look under I/O Specifications):

                      https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/boards-kits/nuc/kits/nuc7pjyh.html

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                        DaddyGo @tman222
                        last edited by Sep 25, 2020, 1:29 PM

                        @tman222 said in Hardware recommendations:

                        was a great little box

                        Yes I like NUCs, but we're talking about Intel Core i .... platform (10Gen)

                        Not about the cheap version, which is Intelยฎ Pentiumยฎ Silver Processor Series and moreover Q4'17

                        but I think the our opinion about Realtek - doesn't change from that yet ๐Ÿ˜‰

                        BTW:
                        the OP clearly described what kind of NUC it had - - Realtek PHY is definitely not there

                        Cats bury it so they can't see it!
                        (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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                          pmadem @akuma1x
                          last edited by Sep 25, 2020, 2:46 PM

                          @akuma1x Yes , I only have one LAN port on the NUC

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                            pmadem
                            last edited by Sep 25, 2020, 2:51 PM

                            Here's a link to check the specifications for the NUC that I have :

                            https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/188811/intel-nuc-10-performance-kit-nuc10i7fnh.html

                            Integrated LAN Intelยฎ Ethernet Connection I219-V

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                              akuma1x @pmadem
                              last edited by Sep 25, 2020, 3:00 PM

                              @pmadem The Intel i219-V is reported to work just fine with pfsense, and I'm assuming FreeBSD. But, since it's got only 1 single network port, you're still going to need a smart/managed switch to make this project work.

                              Jeff

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                                pmadem @akuma1x
                                last edited by Sep 25, 2020, 3:16 PM

                                @akuma1x Thanks Jeff ! I m trying to find a good managed switch . Do you have any recommendations ?

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                                  akuma1x @pmadem
                                  last edited by Sep 25, 2020, 11:58 PM

                                  @pmadem What's the size of your network, how many WIRED devices?

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                                    pmadem @akuma1x
                                    last edited by Sep 26, 2020, 12:18 AM

                                    @akuma1x I have around 10 wired devices currently but also would like to have some extra room for some wired devices

                                    Thanks !

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                                      akuma1x @pmadem
                                      last edited by Sep 26, 2020, 12:56 AM

                                      @pmadem Ok, here's some quick recommendations:

                                      D-Link Ethernet Switch, 24 Port Gigabit Easy Smart Managed Switch ($128 USD)
                                      https://www.amazon.com/D-Link-24-Port-EasySmart-Ethernet-DGS-1100-24/dp/B004SUO1S0

                                      NETGEAR 24-Port Gigabit Ethernet Smart Managed Switch ($177 USD)
                                      https://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-GS724T-400NAS-Lifetime-Protection-GS724Tv4/dp/B00I5W5EGA

                                      There's also some 16-port managed switches, but they are very close in price to the 24-port models. Hope that helps!

                                      Jeff

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                                        pmadem @akuma1x
                                        last edited by Sep 27, 2020, 9:29 PM

                                        @akuma1x Thanks !

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                                          DaddyGo @pmadem
                                          last edited by Sep 29, 2020, 4:40 PM

                                          @pmadem said in Hardware recommendations:

                                          Do you have any recommendations ? ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                          I'm correcting myself now and exist an Intel NUC with dual NICs, but itโ€™s just yet to come:

                                          https://liliputing.com/2020/09/intel-tiger-canyon-details-leaked-intel-nuc-with-tiger-lake-chips.html

                                          Plus, with the new Intel PHY (2,5 GbE), weโ€™re looking forward to it...
                                          https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/184676/intel-ethernet-controller-i225-v.html

                                          Cats bury it so they can't see it!
                                          (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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