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      Stewart
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      I have the same issues. I wind up just increasing the limiter until I can get the actual speeds I'm looking for. At the moment, I have a rule for 350Mbps but I can't scratch above 270Mbps with it. I tell users it's set at 300Mbps and they are within 10% so it's OK, but I don't understand it. It'd be great to get an answer on this, though.

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        Jimbohello
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        I believe that netgate does not worry about 2 idiots who are in the same boat, about a problem which does not exist! do'H

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          Stewart @Jimbohello
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          @Jimbohello said in Wrong limiter speed:

          I believe that netgate does not worry about 2 idiots who are in the same boat, about a problem which does not exist! do'H

          Well, it must exist since we are both experiencing it. I just kinda gave up on trying to fix it long ago. I remember posting about it but I can't remember if I ever got a response, much less a resolution. I know what settings will give people the numbers they want to see so I just go with it.

          In actuality, I logged into the forums today looking for an answer to this exact same problem. I've tried different algorithms with no success.

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            bobbenheim @Stewart
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            @Stewart Have you tried setting Powerd to maximum in
            System / Advanced / Miscellaneous?
            I remember encountering something similar once which the above fixed.

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              Jimbohello @bobbenheim
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              @bobbenheim Thank's
              did not change noting !
              your help was please ! thanks

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                serbus
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                Hello!

                Never used a limiter in pfsense, but the docs say :

                "Limiters cannot effectively guarantee a minimum bandwidth amount for a pipe or queue, only a maximum."

                I understand this to mean that you wont get more than the limit, but you could get less. Blowing past the limit would be one thing, but never hitting it? I dont know...

                https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/trafficshaper/limiters.html

                John

                Lex parsimoniae

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                  noplan @serbus
                  last edited by

                  Hey
                  Tested it right now
                  And hit the limit (not able to get more than the limit)

                  Limit 5 on a 100

                  The first time
                  Then 4,5 then 4,8....

                  Not gettin more than the limit an hit it once ;) out of 3

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                    bobbenheim @Jimbohello
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                    @Jimbohello what system are you running pfsense on and are you seeing higher speeds without limiter?

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                      Jimbohello @serbus
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                      @serbus
                      first off, i read the documentation already.
                      cant’t garranty minimum exacly !
                      but suppose to garranty a maximum, that’s the issue.

                      if you look a the firts post ! you will understand better ! the situation does appears on a breach of certain point !
                      let say max limiter is 300 you will get 270
                      let say limiter is set to 425 you will get 390
                      let say limiter is set to 905 you will get 670
                      and so on ! nothing to do with limiting 5 or 10 or 20! we are talking about more the limiter size increace more de accuracy is wrong

                      thank’s

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                        Jimbohello @bobbenheim
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                        @bobbenheim

                        lenovo m93p
                        core i5 4th gen
                        no hardware offloading
                        aes-ni
                        2 nic intel pro

                        useless stuf disable in bios / onboard nic / onboard sound card / etc !

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                          Jimbohello @bobbenheim
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                          @bobbenheim

                          and ! yes the maximun reach point is reach without limiter !
                          940 -945 approx

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                            Stewart
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                            We've seen in APU1 and APU2 boxes. The disparity gets larger and larger the higher we set it.

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                              noplan @Stewart
                              last edited by

                              @Stewart said in Wrong limiter speed:

                              We've seen in APU1 and APU2 boxes

                              yes same here.. but with some testing
                              the limiter is set to a solid work.

                              we use it to prevent clients / networks / hosts
                              to consume all the bandwidth available

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                                SteveITS Galactic Empire
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                                What does Diagnostics > Limiter Info show during the testing?

                                See post https://forum.netgate.com/topic/112527/playing-with-fq_codel-in-2-4/38 ... "On downloads you will commonly see below the configured bitrate because each time you hit the limit pfSense will tell the sender to slow down below the limit."

                                "minimum bandwidth" I think is referring to that limiters can't guarantee a device will get any bandwidth at all, they can only cap the device.

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                                  bobbenheim @Jimbohello
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                                  @Jimbohello what are your limiter settings?

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                                    Jimbohello @bobbenheim
                                    last edited by

                                    @bobbenheim
                                    <dnshaper>
                                    <queue>
                                    <name>in</name>
                                    <number>1</number>
                                    <qlimit></qlimit>
                                    <plr></plr>
                                    <description></description>
                                    <bandwidth>
                                    <item>
                                    <bw>799</bw>
                                    <burst></burst>
                                    <bwscale>Mb</bwscale>
                                    <bwsched>none</bwsched>
                                    </item>
                                    </bandwidth>
                                    <enabled>on</enabled>
                                    <buckets></buckets>
                                    <mask>none</mask>
                                    <maskbits></maskbits>
                                    <maskbitsv6></maskbitsv6>
                                    <delay>0</delay>
                                    <sched>wf2q+</sched>
                                    <aqm>droptail</aqm>
                                    <ecn></ecn>
                                    <queue>
                                    <name>in-queue</name>
                                    <number>1</number>
                                    <qlimit></qlimit>
                                    <description></description>
                                    <weight></weight>
                                    <enabled>on</enabled>
                                    <buckets></buckets>
                                    <mask>dstaddress</mask>
                                    <maskbits>32</maskbits>
                                    <maskbitsv6>128</maskbitsv6>
                                    <aqm>droptail</aqm>
                                    <ecn></ecn>
                                    </queue>
                                    </queue>
                                    <queue>
                                    <name>out</name>
                                    <number>2</number>
                                    <qlimit></qlimit>
                                    <plr></plr>
                                    <description></description>
                                    <bandwidth>
                                    <item>
                                    <bw>799</bw>
                                    <burst></burst>
                                    <bwscale>Mb</bwscale>
                                    <bwsched>none</bwsched>
                                    </item>
                                    </bandwidth>
                                    <enabled>on</enabled>
                                    <buckets></buckets>
                                    <mask>none</mask>
                                    <maskbits></maskbits>
                                    <maskbitsv6></maskbitsv6>
                                    <delay>0</delay>
                                    <sched>wf2q+</sched>
                                    <aqm>droptail</aqm>
                                    <ecn></ecn>
                                    <queue>
                                    <name>out-queue</name>
                                    <number>2</number>
                                    <qlimit></qlimit>
                                    <description></description>
                                    <weight></weight>
                                    <enabled>on</enabled>
                                    <buckets></buckets>
                                    <mask>srcaddress</mask>
                                    <maskbits>32</maskbits>
                                    <maskbitsv6>128</maskbitsv6>
                                    <aqm>droptail</aqm>
                                    <ecn></ecn>
                                    </queue>
                                    </queue>
                                    </dnshaper>

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                                      Stewart @noplan
                                      last edited by Stewart

                                      @noplan Certainly we can make it work. It's just that the numbers don't really line up. Oh, and fast.com goes crazy when put through one of the limiters. Through the ones we set up last week fast.com couldn't get more than 120Mbps no matter what the limiter was set to. Without the limiter it would get the full 600+Mbps. I thought that was odd. Speedtest.net is the one that would increase, just at a different rate to what the limiter was being set at.

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                                        bobbenheim @Jimbohello
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                                        @Jimbohello Can you try enabling ECN in the limiter (not the queues) and see if that makes a difference, else you might also need to increase queue length from the default 50 to something larger.
                                        Have you made any tweaks in loader.conf.local?

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                                          Jimbohello @bobbenheim
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                                          @bobbenheim

                                          what tweak ?

                                          in loader.conf.local

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                                            Jimbohello @bobbenheim
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                                            @bobbenheim
                                            Explicit Congestion Notification is selected, but neither Tail Drop nor Worst-case Weighted fair Queueing (default) support it.

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