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    WanTime
    last edited by WanTime Mar 28, 2020, 6:32 PM Mar 28, 2020, 12:50 PM

    under windows driver nbase t is only for auto-negotiating depending on link partner. but under Linux it should be fully supported and select-able. unless i am missing something.
    https://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/release-notes/ethernet-controller-x550-feature-support-matrix.pdf

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      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
      last edited by Mar 28, 2020, 3:13 PM

      If Intel says it's Linux only then that's probably true since they write the FreeBSD drivers themselves. There is probably nothing much we can do about that but wait for an update.
      If the driver shows it as selectable then pfSense should also show that, the values from the driver are just passed through.

      Steve

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        WanTime
        last edited by WanTime Mar 28, 2020, 7:25 PM Mar 28, 2020, 5:22 PM

        so even its not user select-able under BSD why is the driver seeing the current state as unknown. it work at 2.5/5 with auto negotiating when at link partner request under every other OS and displays it under ui and driver but its not displaying the current state under BSD. the HW support is there but the driver just does not know what is going on ?

        i don't have a spare box up atm so i can just test on windows and pfsense(bsd)

        here is X550 under windows driver connecting to the same realtek 2.5 board working and displaying fine. only the user selectablity to NBase-t is limited to linux. auto negotiating to nbase-t should be working on all drivers and os, should be displayed on ui.

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          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by Mar 28, 2020, 10:56 PM

          Pretty much, yeah. The driver in FreeBSD 11.3 / pfSense 2.4.5 cannot return a link speed of 2.5G or 5G but it seemingly can show unknown.
          The most recent drivers will be in FreeBSD 12 or those Intel offers for download.

          Try a pfSense 2.5 snapshot, currenntly based on 12-rel. Or a newer FreeBSD image.

          Steve

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            WanTime
            last edited by WanTime Mar 29, 2020, 4:37 AM Mar 29, 2020, 4:09 AM

            [2.5.0-DEVELOPMENT][admin@pfSense.localdomain]/root: ifconfig -m ix1
            ix1: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500
                    options=e538bb<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,JUMBO_MTU,VLAN_HWCSUM,WOL_UCAST,WOL_MCAST,WOL_MAGIC,VLAN_HWFILTER,VLAN_HWTSO,RXCSUM_IPV6,TXCSUM_IPV6>
                    capabilities=e53fbb<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,JUMBO_MTU,VLAN_HWCSUM,TSO4,TSO6,LRO,WOL_UCAST,WOL_MCAST,WOL_MAGIC,VLAN_HWFILTER,VLAN_HWTSO,RXCSUM_IPV6,TXCSUM_IPV6>
                    ether a0:36:9f:
                    inet6 fe80::a236:9fff:fe27:b1f6%ix1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2
                    inet6 fe80::1:1%ix1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2
                    inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255
                    media: Ethernet autoselect (Unknown)
                    status: active
                    supported media:
                            media autoselect
                            media 100baseTX
                            media 1000baseT
                            media 10Gbase-T
            
            

            same in 2.5.0 :( definitely an FreeBSD/PFsense driver only issue . tested with Ubuntu bootable usb as well. as with windows it displays and auto negotiates at 2.5g just fine, i may test under newest FreeBSD tomorrow on the pfsense box it self.

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              w0w
              last edited by Mar 29, 2020, 7:18 AM

              Mine was always 2.5. Definitely FreeBSD/Intel issue, nothing to do on pfSense side. But at least it works now and this should not be a problem anyway.

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                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by Mar 29, 2020, 11:10 AM

                Even the latest driver from Intel does not list 2.5G or 5G link speeds.
                https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/14688/Intel-Network-Adapters-Driver-for-PCIe-10-Gigabit-Network-Connections-Under-FreeBSD-?product=192957

                Steve

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                  w0w @stephenw10
                  last edited by Mar 29, 2020, 6:41 PM

                  @stephenw10
                  This is the same driver we have in pfSense 2.5.0. Don't know are there any plans to implement full support for NBASE-T or not, can't find anything about it on FreeBSD side.

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                    indigo88
                    last edited by Sep 9, 2020, 8:32 PM

                    Installed a Netgear CM2000 modem today. It's a DOCSIS 3.1 modem with a single 2.5GBASE-T port. The modem reports a 2.5G connection and pfSense reports "Unknown" as @WanTime showed earlier. I also see "<rxpause,txpause>" but it does not affect the connection as far as I can tell.

                    I'm getting an aggregate bandwidth of about 1.2 Gbps between devices so Comcast is overprovisioning my gigabit service. Upload is still terrible however.

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                      bquinn123
                      last edited by Oct 17, 2020, 5:06 AM

                      Can anyone recommend a 1-port and/or 2-port low profile card?

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                        daplumber
                        last edited by May 5, 2021, 3:51 AM

                        Just another data point:

                        pfsense 2.5.1-RELEASE (amd64)

                        Intel X550-T2 connected to the 2.5Gb port on an Arris Surfboard S33 Cable Modem support page:

                        Standard Specification Compliant	DOCSIS 3.1
                        Hardware Version	                V1.0
                        Software Version	                TB01.01.001.14_102120_192.S3
                        
                        Energy Efficient Ethernet               Enabled
                        

                        Connected with a 10m Cat8 Cable.

                        ifconfig -m ix1 reports:

                        media: Ethernet autoselect (Unknown <rxpause,txpause>)
                        	status: active
                        	supported media:
                        		media autoselect
                        		media 100baseTX
                        		media 1000baseT
                        		media 10Gbase-T
                        

                        From the transfer speeds it definitely seems to be connected at greater than 1Gb and seems to be 2.5Gb from what I can tell. Obviously it's not paused.

                        The latest Intel Driver is 3.3.24

                        The README still says:

                        This driver supports the following media type options:
                        
                        Media Type          Description
                        ----------          -----------
                        autoselect          Enables auto-negotiation for speed and duplex.
                        10baseT/UTP         Sets speed to 10 Mbps. Use the ifconfig mediaopt
                                            option to select full-duplex mode.
                        100baseTX           Sets speed to 100 Mbps. Use the ifconfig mediaopt
                                            option to select full-duplex mode.
                        1000baseTX          Sets speed to 1000 Mbps. In this case, the driver
                                            supports only full-duplex mode.
                        1000baseSX          Sets speed to 1000 Mbps. In this case, the driver
                                            supports only full-duplex mode.
                        
                        

                        Here's the dmesg output from boot:

                        ...
                        ix0: <Intel(R) PRO/10GbE PCI-Express Network Driver> mem 0xfcc00000-0xfcffffff,0xfcbfc000-0xfcbfffff irq 19 at device 0.0 on pci2
                        ix0: Using 2048 TX descriptors and 2048 RX descriptors
                        ix0: Using 8 RX queues 8 TX queues
                        ix0: Using MSI-X interrupts with 9 vectors
                        ix0: allocated for 8 queues
                        ix0: allocated for 8 rx queues
                        ix0: Ethernet address: a0:36:9f:28:1f:a6
                        ix0: PCI Express Bus: Speed 5.0GT/s Width x4
                        ix0: netmap queues/slots: TX 8/2048, RX 8/2048
                        ix1: <Intel(R) PRO/10GbE PCI-Express Network Driver> mem 0xfc400000-0xfc7fffff,0xfcbf8000-0xfcbfbfff irq 18 at device 0.1 on pci2
                        ix1: Using 2048 TX descriptors and 2048 RX descriptors
                        ix1: Using 8 RX queues 8 TX queues
                        ix1: Using MSI-X interrupts with 9 vectors
                        ix1: allocated for 8 queues
                        ix1: allocated for 8 rx queues
                        ix1: Ethernet address: a0:36:9f:28:1f:a4
                        ix1: PCI Express Bus: Speed 5.0GT/s Width x4
                        ix1: netmap queues/slots: TX 8/2048, RX 8/2048
                        ...
                        lo0: link state changed to UP
                        ix1: link state changed to UP
                        ix1: link state changed to DOWN
                        igb1: link state changed to UP
                        ix1: link state changed to UP
                        pflog0: promiscuous mode enabled
                        re0: link state changed to DOWN
                        igb1: promiscuous mode enabled
                        ...
                        

                        WAN is on ix1, LAN is on igb1, ix0, igb0, and re0 (motherboard) are not currently connected. Eventually ix0 will connected to a 10GBASE-T SFP+ transceiver on a 10G switch as soon as I get around to installing the switch with another 10G Cat8.

                        So the hardware still seems happy to auto-negotiate to 2500Mbps, even though the FreeBSD ix driver can't report it. ¯_(ツ)_/¯ Annoying, but usable. Where do I sign the "Dear Intel" "metoo" petition? ;-)

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                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by May 5, 2021, 12:00 PM

                          The presence of <rxpause,txpause> there indicates that flow control is active on that link. Not that it's actually paused at that moment.

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                            daplumber @stephenw10
                            last edited by May 5, 2021, 4:42 PM

                            @stephenw10

                            I knew that! :-)

                            Sorry, I should have rephrased that as “Flow Control appears to be working.” Rather than saying the NIC does not appear to be paused. Doh! ;-)

                            Any guess on when/if this could be addressed by Intel or someone else?

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                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by May 5, 2021, 9:29 PM

                              No new information there I'm afraid.

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                                Brian Cunnie
                                last edited by Brian Cunnie Mar 13, 2022, 10:14 PM Mar 13, 2022, 10:13 PM

                                2.5/5G added to the kernel's ixgbe driver with this commit: https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/sys/dev/ixgbe/ixgbe.h?id=d381c807510de2ebb453a563540bd17e344a2aab

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                                  daplumber @Brian Cunnie
                                  last edited by daplumber Mar 14, 2022, 10:28 PM Mar 14, 2022, 10:28 PM

                                  @brian-cunnie said in NBASE-T Support for Intel X550:

                                  https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/sys/dev/ixgbe/ixgbe.h?id=d381c807510de2ebb453a563540bd17e344a2aab

                                  Any idea on approximately when this should show up in a pfsense RELEASE? Would I have to change anything?

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                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                    last edited by Mar 14, 2022, 10:30 PM

                                    It's only in 13-stable right now so at the very least it would need either to brought into 12 stable or pfSense moved to 13 stable (or newer).

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                                      Brian Cunnie @daplumber
                                      last edited by Mar 15, 2022, 4:39 PM

                                      @daplumber I don't have any idea when it would show up in a pfsense release.

                                      Also, I've been struggling to get this to work on my non-pfsense straight-FreeBSD 13 firewall, and in spite of several attempts the Intel X550 negotiates a 1Gbe not 2.5Gbe connection. When I get it working I'll update the thread.

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                                        daplumber @Brian Cunnie
                                        last edited by Mar 15, 2022, 8:18 PM

                                        @brian-cunnie I have found that the connection needs to be pretty clean. I use a Cat8 factory made cable. The chipset also runs pretty warm, I had to ensure good thermal grease and adequate air flow.

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                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                          last edited by Mar 15, 2022, 11:26 PM

                                          Interesting. One of the big advantages of 2.5G is that it runs over cat5e. I've never had an issue using igc. Not tried an x550 though.

                                          Steve

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