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    • M
      MacUsers
      last edited by

      Power management is set to "Active Power Controller", which

      • Enable Dell System DBPM (BIOS will not make all P states available to OS)

      • Memory frequency = Maximum Performance

      • Fan algorithm = Minimum Power

      This is what I see in the dmesg:

      [2.3.3-RELEASE][admin@pfs17.littlehome.co.uk]/root: grep -i speedstep /var/run/dmesg.boot
      est0: <enhanced speedstep="" frequency="" control=""> on cpu0
      est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized.
      est1: <enhanced speedstep="" frequency="" control=""> on cpu1
      est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized.
      est2: <enhanced speedstep="" frequency="" control=""> on cpu2
      est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized.
      est3: <enhanced speedstep="" frequency="" control=""> on cpu3
      est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized.</enhanced></enhanced></enhanced></enhanced>
      
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      • ?
        A Former User
        last edited by

        The Maximum Performance may be stopping the CPU's from any energy efficiency.
        Is there any other option available other than Max Perf.

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        • Sergei_ShablovskyS
          Sergei_Shablovsky @MacUsers
          last edited by Sergei_Shablovsky

          @macusers

          This is common (and VERY OLD) well known FreeBSD pesky problem with powerd and est drivers correct work in Intels cpus.

          The solution are described here https://www.ateamsystems.com/tech-blog/increase-freebsd-performance-with-powerd/

          Because the pfSense are

          • build on top of FreeBSD components (so some NIC and hardware drivers able to using several cores/several CPUs, some - no https://forum.netgate.com/topic/149735/how-pfsense-utilize-multicore-processors-and-multi-cpu-systems)
          • FreeBSD have some issues for a years (!) (especially with drivers);

          In case of using multi-cpu and multi-core hardware some issues come back :)

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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            When you see that in the boot log, for example:

            est0: <Enhanced SpeedStep Frequency Control> on cpu0
            est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized.
            est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 233500002000
            device_attach: est0 attach returned 6
            

            It's almost always because Speedstep is disabled, and often locked, in the BIOS. (The CPU MSRs).

            Steve

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              Sergei_Shablovsky @stephenw10
              last edited by

              @stephenw10 said in Inssue with Intel SpeedStep settings:

              When you see that in the boot log, for example:

              est0: <Enhanced SpeedStep Frequency Control> on cpu0
              est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized.
              est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 233500002000
              device_attach: est0 attach returned 6
              

              It's almost always because Speedstep is disabled, and often locked, in the BIOS. (The CPU MSRs).

              Steve

              Thank You, Steve!

              Are You reading the link https://www.ateamsystems.com/tech-blog/increase-freebsd-performance-with-powerd/ ?

              There are very interesting dependency between SpeedStep and TurboBoost... Isn’t it?

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              • provelsP
                provels
                last edited by

                Gotta love this!
                4ae789de-2438-4eb7-99b6-198ffbf7f951-image.png
                I have an ancient (like 2004) P4 server that I run Xigmanas on and get the same message.
                I believe it's because the BIOS has no idea WTF the CPU is talking about.

                Peder

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                • Sergei_ShablovskyS
                  Sergei_Shablovsky @provels
                  last edited by Sergei_Shablovsky

                  @provels said in Issue with Intel SpeedStep settings:

                  Gotta love this!
                  4ae789de-2438-4eb7-99b6-198ffbf7f951-image.png

                  If You Googling that realize that this problem come again and again even in new machines.

                  I have an ancient (like 2004) P4 server that I run Xigmanas on and get the same message.

                  If I able to buy 2012-2014 year produced IBM branded ServerX series 2 CPU 48Gb ECC RAM 2 hot spare PSU 900W each w/ separate mgmt card for $300 and with good Intel 40Gb card he able to deal with 70-80Gb of traffic (with ssl, vpn, balancing, blocking, etc full stack) why I need to spending more? For what reason ?
                  By the way IBM Server X is from “non-Lenovo” era, when IBM have responsibilities for EACH server.

                  So in particular this case “old” not equal “trash”. :)

                  I believe it's because the BIOS has no idea WTF the CPU is talking about.

                  Please read articles that I pointed above.

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                  • provelsP
                    provels @Sergei_Shablovsky
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                    @sergei_shablovsky
                    FWIW, my XigmaNAS box that reports "est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized." , still downclocks as expected with PowerD enabled. So there's that...

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @provels
                      last edited by

                      You're probably seeing acpi throttling or p4tcc rather than true CPU frequency changing. I never found either did much.

                      Steve

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                      • provelsP
                        provels @stephenw10
                        last edited by

                        @stephenw10
                        Possibly, the box is 2004 (not a typo). But you're right, it makes no difference in operation. The box sucks 100w at idle or full load (P4, 3.60GHz).

                        Peder

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @provels
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                          Yup those later P4s were hungry hungry beasts!

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