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    Issue with Intel SpeedStep settings

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    • ?
      A Former User
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      The Maximum Performance may be stopping the CPU's from any energy efficiency.
      Is there any other option available other than Max Perf.

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      • Sergei_ShablovskyS
        Sergei_Shablovsky @MacUsers
        last edited by Sergei_Shablovsky

        @macusers

        This is common (and VERY OLD) well known FreeBSD pesky problem with powerd and est drivers correct work in Intels cpus.

        The solution are described here https://www.ateamsystems.com/tech-blog/increase-freebsd-performance-with-powerd/

        Because the pfSense are

        • build on top of FreeBSD components (so some NIC and hardware drivers able to using several cores/several CPUs, some - no https://forum.netgate.com/topic/149735/how-pfsense-utilize-multicore-processors-and-multi-cpu-systems)
        • FreeBSD have some issues for a years (!) (especially with drivers);

        In case of using multi-cpu and multi-core hardware some issues come back :)

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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          When you see that in the boot log, for example:

          est0: <Enhanced SpeedStep Frequency Control> on cpu0
          est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized.
          est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 233500002000
          device_attach: est0 attach returned 6
          

          It's almost always because Speedstep is disabled, and often locked, in the BIOS. (The CPU MSRs).

          Steve

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          • Sergei_ShablovskyS
            Sergei_Shablovsky @stephenw10
            last edited by

            @stephenw10 said in Inssue with Intel SpeedStep settings:

            When you see that in the boot log, for example:

            est0: <Enhanced SpeedStep Frequency Control> on cpu0
            est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized.
            est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 233500002000
            device_attach: est0 attach returned 6
            

            It's almost always because Speedstep is disabled, and often locked, in the BIOS. (The CPU MSRs).

            Steve

            Thank You, Steve!

            Are You reading the link https://www.ateamsystems.com/tech-blog/increase-freebsd-performance-with-powerd/ ?

            There are very interesting dependency between SpeedStep and TurboBoost... Isn’t it?

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            • provelsP
              provels
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              Gotta love this!
              4ae789de-2438-4eb7-99b6-198ffbf7f951-image.png
              I have an ancient (like 2004) P4 server that I run Xigmanas on and get the same message.
              I believe it's because the BIOS has no idea WTF the CPU is talking about.

              Peder

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              • Sergei_ShablovskyS
                Sergei_Shablovsky @provels
                last edited by Sergei_Shablovsky

                @provels said in Issue with Intel SpeedStep settings:

                Gotta love this!
                4ae789de-2438-4eb7-99b6-198ffbf7f951-image.png

                If You Googling that realize that this problem come again and again even in new machines.

                I have an ancient (like 2004) P4 server that I run Xigmanas on and get the same message.

                If I able to buy 2012-2014 year produced IBM branded ServerX series 2 CPU 48Gb ECC RAM 2 hot spare PSU 900W each w/ separate mgmt card for $300 and with good Intel 40Gb card he able to deal with 70-80Gb of traffic (with ssl, vpn, balancing, blocking, etc full stack) why I need to spending more? For what reason ?
                By the way IBM Server X is from “non-Lenovo” era, when IBM have responsibilities for EACH server.

                So in particular this case “old” not equal “trash”. :)

                I believe it's because the BIOS has no idea WTF the CPU is talking about.

                Please read articles that I pointed above.

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                  provels @Sergei_Shablovsky
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                  @sergei_shablovsky
                  FWIW, my XigmaNAS box that reports "est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized." , still downclocks as expected with PowerD enabled. So there's that...

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @provels
                    last edited by

                    You're probably seeing acpi throttling or p4tcc rather than true CPU frequency changing. I never found either did much.

                    Steve

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                    • provelsP
                      provels @stephenw10
                      last edited by

                      @stephenw10
                      Possibly, the box is 2004 (not a typo). But you're right, it makes no difference in operation. The box sucks 100w at idle or full load (P4, 3.60GHz).

                      Peder

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @provels
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                        Yup those later P4s were hungry hungry beasts!

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