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    • bingo600B
      bingo600 @Gertjan
      last edited by bingo600

      @gertjan said in PFSense Query refused:

      edit : what I never understood :
      pfSense is the gateway/router in a LAN network like 192.168.1.0/24
      Why choosing an IP LAN like 192.168.1.140 - why not the default, more logic, 192.168.1.1 or, if you have to, 192.168.1.254 ?
      Why an IP in the middle of the network range ?
      Is there a already 192.168.1.1 ? What is that device ?
      It's just a choice, I know, 192.168.1.140 isn't wrong technically.

      I totally agree , if pfSense is def-gw .140 is strange.

      I have DNS on .101 & .102 , but that's my linux bind servers (that pfSense forwards too).
      My def-gw (fw) is on .1

      /Bingo

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        grantcurell @Gertjan
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        @gertjan Unfortunately as mentioned in the OP neither the hostname or the IP resolve.

        To answer the question of why 140, because in this case it isn't serving as the gateway.

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        • GertjanG
          Gertjan @grantcurell
          last edited by

          @grantcurell said in PFSense Query refused:

          or the IP resolve

          I edited my post above.
          If 192.168.1.125 is a device on your LAN that is known, for example, because it used DHCP to obtain a IP, and you are using one of these two :

          d061f017-258d-4506-82b8-dc0bdd833a3d-image.png

          then the hostname will be known.
          And returned.

          If the device 192.168.1.125 exists on your network, and you use a static IP setup, then the resolver wouldn't know about it.

          No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
          Edit : and where are the logs ??

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          • johnpozJ
            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Gertjan
            last edited by johnpoz

            @gertjan said in PFSense Query refused:

            nslookup will ask for the hostname when an IP is givnn

            Huh?? Nslookup will do the PTR for that IP..

            set debug and see for yourself.

            PTR.png

            If your getting refused back, then yes that screams to ACL as problem.

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            • GertjanG
              Gertjan @johnpoz
              last edited by

              @johnpoz : I just re discovered that, one hour ago.
              I'm more a dig man.

              No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
              Edit : and where are the logs ??

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              • johnpozJ
                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Gertjan
                last edited by

                Yeah same here - not sure why anyone would use nslookup ;)

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                  grantcurell @johnpoz
                  last edited by

                  @johnpoz

                  No ACLs set unless there is one out of the box. I was honest in the OP, I installed from ISO and the only changes made were the ones mentioned.

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                  • johnpozJ
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @grantcurell
                    last edited by

                    @grantcurell

                    Where are you doing the query from? A device on the pfsense lan? Or some downstream network, a vpn connection?

                    Out of the box yes ACLs are set for the networks directly attached to pfsense. If its a downstream network, or a vpn tunnel IP then no you would not be able to query unbound on pfsense.

                    Pfsense IP is what? 192.168.1.140, what is your client IP that your running nslookup from?

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                      grantcurell @johnpoz
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                      @johnpoz client is 192.168.1.6, same network, directly connected, only thing between them is a switch.

                      This is part of why I was so baffled by the problem. I've set this up a million times before, on this network, with that switch, with this pfsense config.

                      Worth mentioning when I used diagnostics to have PFSense query itself it worked fine

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                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @grantcurell
                        last edited by

                        @grantcurell

                        Did you turn off the auto ACLs?

                        advanced.png

                        Under the resolver / advanced settings?

                        Do a query for pfsense name.. does that work?

                        pfsense.png

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                          grantcurell @johnpoz
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                          @johnpoz I'll check that out! Thanks man!

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                          • GertjanG
                            Gertjan @grantcurell
                            last edited by

                            @grantcurell said in PFSense Query refused:

                            I installed from ISO and the only changes made were the ones mentioned

                            and then you set up a network where :

                            @grantcurell said in PFSense Query refused:

                            in this case it isn't serving as the gateway

                            which means you left default (networking) settings.
                            That's perfectly fine.
                            And opens the door of all kind of situations.

                            Please understand : install pfSense from scratch.
                            Hook up the WAN.
                            Hook up a PC on LAN.
                            It works.
                            So, tell us what changed, and we'll tell you what to do or undo.

                            No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                            Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                              mbrownnyc @bingo600
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                              @bingo600 said in PFSense Query refused:

                              @grantcurell

                              Are you using unbound ?

                              I had to add my openvpn ranges to the access-lists section as allow , in order to be able to resolve DNS from those.

                              Seems like unbound default allows known nets (assigned to interfaces) , and refuses qureries from all other nets.

                              Add "unknown nets here" (Unbound settings)

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                              /Bingo

                              Worth noting this occured with a VLAN interface srced traffic... It might be because I need to bounce the unbound daemon, or whatever... adding the ACL allowed me to src traffic from a macvlan hosted docker container bound to a subint on a synology NAS. The tagged traffic was arriving, and I was seeing refused responses from pfsense at the LAN interface of the pfsense. Adding the subnet for the VLAN interface resolved the issue. Thank you!

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