be honest are you worried about corona

DaddyGo

@mcury said in be honest are you worried about corona:

we have a very strong political establishment, the deep state, which is taking the decisions and not letting other opinions to have voice.

I understand you, I know exactly how you feel when you talk about this.
I’m not in a better position either and I’m older than you..... - that you wrote how you are.
We have to complain, don't we?!

The problem is imminent and we are not the ones who can do anything.
I come from a similar problematic country, Hungary (beginning the dictatorship of...), hmmm .. no comment, ...I now live in Portugal, a little better with my family.

Who knows where shoud be better? It all depends on the mentality of the people.
COVID can find you anywhere and that’s scary...
The world is becoming utopian as the way I look out the window everywhere I can see just masks.

Welcome to the real world.

and

Eu entendo-te, sei exatamente como sentes quando falas sobre isso.
Também não estou numa posição melhor, sou mais velho que tu ..... - relativamente ao que tu escreves.
Temos que reclamar, não é ?!

O problema é iminente e não somos nós que podemos fazer algo.
Venho de um país problemático semelhante, a Hungria (começando a ditadura de...), hmmm .. sem comentários, ... agora vivo em Portugal, um pouco melhor, com a minha família.

Quem sabe onde deveria ser melhor? Tudo depende da mentalidade das pessoas.
O COVID pode encontrar-te em qualquer lugar e isso é assustador ...
O mundo está a tornar-se utópico à medida que olho pela janela. Todo o lado vejo apenas máscaras.

Bem-vindo ao mundo real.

mcury

It's scary... People are alone in their cars, driving, using masks...
I went to a barbecue, people were touching arms to say hello..

The felling is, run to the hills..
Please, stop the bus because I went to leave...

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É assustador... Pessoas sozinhas em seus carros, dirigindo usando máscaras.
Eu fui a um churrasco, e as pessoas tocando braços para dizer olá.

O sentimento é, corram para as colinas...
Por favor, parem o ônibus pois eu quero descer...

DaddyGo

@mcury said in be honest are you worried about corona:
> It's scary...

Para mim, um aperto de mão significa que concordamos em algo e posso confiar em ti. (és simpático e tal ...)
Isso não é mais nada, toque de cotovelo, este será o nosso mundo ...
Triste.

Aqui no sul, em Portugal, aprendi que a mentalidade do sul significa mais contacto físico, ... assim, esta mentalidade pode ser considerada como passado, ou não (?) Espero que não ...

De qualquer forma, temos que confiar uns nos outros, porque o COVID não pode ser derrotado de outra forma ...

os "nossos demônios" representam uma luta separada para cada país,
como a anti-democracia, o iliberalismo, etc.

é por isso que escrevo em duas línguas, para que outras pessoas possam ver do que estamos a falar
talvez possa ser instrutivo

and

For me, a handshake means we have agreed on something and I can trust you. (you are sympathetic and such...)
That's nothing else, elbow touch, this will be our world...
Sad.

Here in the south, in Portugal, I learned that the southern mentality means more physical contact,... thus this mentality can be regarded as the past, or not(?) I hope so not...

Either way, we have to trust each other, because COVID can't be defeated otherwise ...

the "our devils" represent a separate struggle for each country,
such as anti-democracy, illiberalism, etc.

that is the reason why I write in two languages, so that other folks may see what we are talking about
maybe can be instructive

provels

Oh well, like the guy who jumped off the Empire State Building told the people on the 80th floor, "So far, so good...".

provels

@provels said in be honest are you worried about corona:

Trump wants everyone back to work.
10,000 new cases today.
Go figure.
"Must save stock market"

Ah, memories... Seems quaint today.
Now 3,300 US deaths per day.

mcury

@provels Where are these numbers from?
Democratic states?

A Former User

@mcury said in be honest are you worried about corona:

Democratic states?

Are you saying you don't like it when states report accurately? The numbers are the numbers. Politicizing it is just stupid. This virus doesn't care who you voted for or why. Dead is dead.

mcury

@jwj Well, tell me one place in the entire world, that the lockdown worked?
Worse the lockdown, more deaths per million.. this seems to be the rule of this pandemic..

Tell me only one place, and I may change my speech.

A Former User

@mcury said in be honest are you worried about corona:

New Zealand.

Worse the lockdown, more deaths per million.

My turn, prove it. Actually prove it. Show that there are no other contributing factors and that a lockdown caused more deaths from covid.

mcury

@jwj said in be honest are you worried about corona:

New Zealand.

Level 3 lockdown in New Neazland? The lockdown happened there.

Again, show me one place in the entire world, that the lockdown worked.
Worse the lockdown, more deaths per million.

A Former User

@mcury Prove it. Go on, prove it.

Derelict

@jwj

Prove it

I personally believe it should be up to those suppressing the liberties of the people to prove they work.

A Former User

@derelict said in be honest are you worried about corona:

@jwj

Prove it

I personally believe it should be up to those suppressing the liberties of the people to prove they work.

What liberties. You get sick, you get in my space without taking any precautions you get me sick. Who's liberties, exactly have been violated?

So wrapped up in the talk of liberty that you have completely abandoned any idea of duty and responsibility. Pathetic.

mcury

@jwj said in be honest are you worried about corona:

My turn, prove it. Actually prove it. Show that there are no other contributing factors and that a lockdown caused more deaths from covid.

No, it's your turn.
You can choose any place in the entire world.

Check a city for example, called Porto Feliz in Sao Paulo, you will see the death rate, they didn't do any lockdown.. The mayor there worked treating people in early symptons.

Check Sao Paulo death rate, in the state, where the lockdown was cruel, where people were arrested in the beach, you will see the difference.

This scenario is replicating through the entire world.

This lockdown has a reason, and this reason is not for saving lifes.

A Former User

@mcury You asked, I answered. New Zealand. Now show me one place were the lockdown caused more virus deaths.

bingo600

@mcury said in be honest are you worried about corona:

This lockdown has a reason, and this reason is not for saving lifes.

Are you afraid of 5G too ?

mcury

@jwj New Zealand is making lockdowns since march or earlier, I believe that you are miss informed or you have been watching cnn too much.

It's still your turn.

A Former User

@mcury said in be honest are you worried about corona:

@jwj New Zealand is making lockdowns since march or earlier, I believe that you are miss informed or you have been watching cnn too much.

It's still your turn.

OK. Whatever you say. I'm not going to argue with an idiot. You are way more experienced at being an idiot. You win.

mcury

@bingo600 Actually I'm not afraid of 5g, I'm afraid of a 7 months vaccine.
Check the death rate today, without a vaccine, this data shows you that treating during early symptoms are indeed working.

But, we have leaders forcing people to take this vaccine, that no one knows what is going to happen in the next 5 years...

Did you read what happened in India with Melina and Bill Gates vaccine?

Did you read what happened with Dengue vaccine in Brazil?

mcury

@jwj Ual, respect is something we learn from our parents..
Maybe you didn't have that opportunity, so sorry for that.

Anyway, good luck and happy holidays.