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      A Former User @kiokoman
      last edited by

      @kiokoman I do like that idea. I've had a look at, more or less, exactly the pieces you mention. Problem is my dynamic ip from Spectrum is sh*t by definition...

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      • bingo600B
        bingo600 @A Former User
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        @jwj said in email hosting:

        Again, the issue is that public AWS IP isn't on anyone's white list. You're spam every time...

        That is somewhat true ...

        I have that issue with TrendMicro's mailprotection system.
        Even though i have a static ip , it's "carved out of" a Dynamic range that my ISP is announcing.

        And I have contacted them several times to explain that i'm not on any RBL's besides theirs (All clear w. spamhous etc..)

        They always answer - Get your ISP to announce your ip as non dynamic. Like that's ever going to happen šŸ‘Ž

        The wife has to use Gmail to send work related mails.
        So i can relate to that issue.

        That is my only "dark hole" atm.

        I even think i can e-mail gmx.de addresses now , used to be a challenge too.

        /Bingo

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          A Former User
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          It's been a minute since I went down this road but a year or so ago just not being on spamhaus or proofpoint wasn't enough. So many professional offices (doctors/schools/etc) use packaged solutions that have, as best I can tell, whitelists for spam filtering. If you're not coming from a well known block of IP's you're toast.

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          • bingo600B
            bingo600 @A Former User
            last edited by bingo600

            @jwj said in email hosting:

            Problem is my dynamic ip from Spectrum is sh*t by definition...

            You do know you can request your ip to be removed from the Spamhaus PBL , even if it's "announced by isp as dynamic ?

            That solved like 95% of my issues

            Ahh . too late , you answered that

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              A Former User @bingo600
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              @bingo600 Thanks brother :)

              I do think in the end I will go back to some form of self-hosting. All on my own or some service like the Helm that will deal with all of setup for a fee...

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                bingo600
                last edited by bingo600

                So what is needed is a "Legal" smarthost mail forwarder , to route/relay your outbound mail through.

                And setup TLS šŸ‘®

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                  A Former User @bingo600
                  last edited by A Former User

                  @bingo600 That's what these guy s do:

                  https://www.thehelm.com/

                  They just need to get a block of IP's that are seen as blessed like google or micro$oft's servers.

                  Better yet all these other services (bank!) could stop using email as a way to identify me. Then I wouldn't need email at all except for some edge cases.

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                  • bingo600B
                    bingo600 @A Former User
                    last edited by

                    @jwj

                    So they sell you a HW box and a $99 subscription ?
                    And you'll get a VPN w. an exit ip via their system ?

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                      A Former User @bingo600
                      last edited by A Former User

                      @bingo600 Yeah. Although I think the VPN is vaporware atm. You get email, carddav, caldav and nextcloud. I nice app (connects to your box via bluetooth) to admin the whole thing...

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                      • bingo600B
                        bingo600 @A Former User
                        last edited by

                        @jwj

                        Hmmm ... Not happy users
                        https://community.thehelm.com/t/email-security-in-individual-email-accounts/246

                        Are they just using Gmail ?
                        https://community.thehelm.com/t/gmail-outage-ongoing/279

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                          A Former User @bingo600
                          last edited by A Former User

                          @bingo600 The company has become something of a dumpster fire. People paid for devices over a year ago and have yet to receive anything.

                          Their community is a dumpster fire on top of a train wreck driven by idiots. Typical Helm users have brain damage from tin foil hats that are way too tight.

                          That thread is really about how people thought the bounced emails because of gmails meltdown were Helms problem not googles.

                          My opinion is the Helm is a good idea executed poorly. Too bad really...

                          On the other hand there is nothing they do you couldn't do yourself with the some persistence and the right skills.

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                          • kiokomanK
                            kiokoman LAYER 8 @A Former User
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                            @jwj
                            without a static ip you are screwed
                            i myself have searched all available isp on my country that could give me what i want, static ip was a must, do you have no alternative?

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                            we must focus on silencing this @guest character. we must make up lies and alter the copyrights !
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                              A Former User @kiokoman
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                              @kiokoman Not at the moment. Spectrum or AT&T. I'm moving later this year. I'll have a number of choices in the new place (NYC) including a community service that gives 1G symmetric service with static ipv4 and a static /48 prefix. I'm on the edge of my seat waiting for that :)

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                                A Former User
                                last edited by A Former User

                                As a follow on to this line of thinking.

                                If you self host things not email. Calendars, Contacts, File Sync/Sharing and the like do you open ports or keep it local and only accessible via VPN when not at home?

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                                  mhab12
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                                  I just migrated my gmail box to Proton Mail. So far so good. Good security. App works fine, web interface is better. Using a custom domain so don't expect to run into issues with sites not accepting protonmail.com or pm.me addresses. Not sure if you can get by with their free offering but PM might be an easy fix. Tutanota seems to be the other option in the same high security/privacy focused category.

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                                    bingo600 @A Former User
                                    last edited by bingo600

                                    @jwj said in email hosting:

                                    As a follow on to this line of thinking.

                                    If you self host things not email. Calendars, Contacts, File Sync/Sharing and the like do you open ports or keep it local and only accessible via VPN when not at home?

                                    I'm not exposing to public.
                                    All has to be done via OpenVPN

                                    It can't be hard to connect , the wifey can do it wo. nagging. 😊

                                    Btw: I have a friend that is happy w. proton mail too.

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                                      A Former User @bingo600
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                                      @bingo600 Thanks! I appreciate the advice.

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                                      • GertjanG
                                        Gertjan @A Former User
                                        last edited by Gertjan

                                        @jwj said in email hosting:

                                        Just really good email hosting.

                                        Gandi, Google, whatever, forget about them. Go for the real thing, as it is free, used by everybody, and it delivers.

                                        Take your own dedicated server / VPS. Install postfix, add 'courier' or 'dovecot' for POPS and IMAPS support. postfix handles already SMTPS. Add your domains, add known certificates (LE comes in handy here).

                                        Add, for example, roundcube, for webmail access.

                                        Forget about GUI ways to handle postfix. Get to know the two files : main.cf and master.cf and your good. postfix is the most documented program on the Internet.
                                        Add some SPF, DKIM and DMARC facilities. Take care of your reverse and your good.

                                        Control incoming mail, control outgoing mail ( ! ), be patient and gmail, hotmail, etc etc (all of them) will accept your mails just fine.

                                        I switched to that "all myself" mail solution for several domain names a decade ago, and I never regretted it.

                                        True, it's not a free solution. The servers has to be rented, as the domain names.

                                        Hosting you own setup means you can try whatever you want : spam detection is an art.

                                        iPhones, Android devices, Office 365, Thunderbird, other mail clients, my setup works with everything.

                                        No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                                        Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                                        • bingo600B
                                          bingo600
                                          last edited by bingo600

                                          I'm still on sendmail 😊
                                          Never failed me.
                                          But i still think Stallman was on mushrooms when writing the macro language.

                                          Sendmail + dovecot + clamav & "spamhaus checks via sendmail"

                                          Edit:
                                          But i think i'd go w. GertJan's suggestion, if i had to start from scratch.

                                          Or if feeling brave & dockerized ... : https://mailcow.email/

                                          /Bingo

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                                            A Former User
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                                            Thanks for all the info. I'm a ways away from being able to fully self host email, dynamic IP... Proton mail may be an interim solution.

                                            I'll take on some lower hanging fruit and revisit self hosted email when it becomes a viable option. One step at a time, reducing the footprint of data scattered on various services. I do this knowing that the privacy issues must be viewed in a larger context. Worrying about where my Amazon emailed receipts live while ignoring the location beacon (Mobile Phone) in my pocket is to miss the point. Not to mention credit cards and facial recognition...

                                            Removing vendor lock-in is just as appealing as any other aspect of this... Signal was nice step in this direction, removing the dependency on Apple's FaceTime and Messages.

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