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    rosmaniac @johnpoz
    last edited by rosmaniac Jan 19, 2021, 8:38 PM Jan 19, 2021, 8:30 PM

    @johnpoz said in 2.4.5p1 ISO too large for CD:

    @rosmaniac said in 2.4.5p1 ISO too large for CD:

    implying it will work on CD media.

    They do make 90min CDs, I believe all the way up to 99min or 870MBs.. ...
    But your point is valid I guess.. There should prob be mention that specific size CD is required like 90Min.. Or change to DVD for the description of what optical media you can burn too.

    Yeah, 90 and even 100 minute CDRs are available, mainly for those who want their 90-minute and 100-minute cassette mix tapes to fit on CD.... but the Verbatims I have are all 700MB. Yow, those higher-capacity discs are quite a bit more expensive.... $15 will get 100 Verbatim 700MB inkjet-printable CDR's (I use these for audio production purposes doing low-volume CD releases for local musicians who want actual CD releases, so I happened to have those in-hand to do this re-install); 25 100-minute/900MB discs are $25. I can likely buy the DVD drive for that amount.

    Yeah, a simple note about the image size is all I'm after. Mentioning the higher capacity CDs would of course be fine, but if 2.5 and up are going to be >1GB why not just drop the CD entirely?

    Thanks for taking the time to reply.

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      gabacho4 Rebel Alliance @rosmaniac
      last edited by Jan 19, 2021, 8:46 PM

      @rosmaniac point well made. Thanks again for illuminating me personally on the size of the image.

      This conversation had reminded me of how far technology has come in a matter of only a few years. Seems like only yesterday I was installing Windows 95, one 3.25 floppy at a time x 14 (or so). I do miss the grinding and humming sound of those drives. People knew you were busy just by that sound! Maybe Netgate can create a retro installation package made up of 20 or so of those floppies for us older folks. I'm not willing to try punch cards... 😁

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        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @gabacho4
        last edited by johnpoz Jan 19, 2021, 9:13 PM Jan 19, 2021, 9:08 PM

        Not sure if fond memories ;) hehehe

        Getting to disk X and having a read error...

        Not sure why I have fond memories of going around to all the machines and installing the co-processors in the 486 machines ;)

        And do recall having to actual add tcp to our windows 3.1 machines.. Seems like yesterday sometimes!

        edit:
        I looked - I thought I had some 800MB CDRWs laying around - I must of tossed them.. Did find a old box of 3.5 floppies though.. Why and the F did I keep these, when I threw out all the 3.5 drives ;) heheheh

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          biggsy @johnpoz
          last edited by Jan 19, 2021, 11:40 PM

          @johnpoz said in 2.4.5p1 ISO too large for CD:

          Why and the F did I keep these, when I threw out all the 3.5 drives ;)

          Because they have all that BTC stuff on them? 😁

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            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @biggsy
            last edited by Jan 20, 2021, 12:04 AM

            Haha - I wish ;)

            Like that guy that threw away like 7k bitcoins.. And now is trying to get permission from the dump to go diving for the drive..

            https://news.bitcoin.com/man-accidentally-threw-away-hard-drive-with-7500-bitcoins-million-landfill/

            I would of transferred them to modern storage years and years go if that was the case..

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              DaddyGo @rosmaniac
              last edited by Jan 20, 2021, 5:59 PM

              @rosmaniac said in 2.4.5p1 ISO too large for CD:

              I've been running *a nix for 30 years; familiar with progress I am, understand the Netgate reasoning I do, but caught in a bind I be. 2.4.4p3 is still supported

              I say I'm sorry... πŸ˜‰

              I didn't read it carefully enough, that you use the previous version as a "springboard" for installation, 2.4.5-p1

              Although this is not the best either, as a clean installation has the benefits of considering disk fragmentation. (then it does not yet exist :))
              (pkg... installation, - reinstallation and deletion processes, TaTatatata)

              I understand your attitude to the old HW, but it’s time to look for new donator :-)

              I read the other posts about old and new OS, IT, network developments, storage solutions... (and other)

              • well, yes the IT world is moving forward.... floppy, CD, DVD, double layer, blue ray, pen drive, etc..

              I started with this (C64 I. and later II. - BASIC and later Simons' BASIC), so what you wrote is not far from me...

              (the best part is that it still works(!) and I load the Last Ninja game from a 5.25" floppy (one sided floppy(!)) disc, hihihihi)

              For someone who doesn't know Last Ninja:
              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Ninja

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              BTW:
              It’s good to hear that there are still people who selflessly help the other. PEACE πŸ‘

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                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @DaddyGo
                last edited by johnpoz Jan 20, 2021, 6:07 PM Jan 20, 2021, 6:05 PM

                Wow - brings back memories. I never played that one.. My favs were reach for the stars

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reach_for_the_Stars_(video_game)
                and
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elite_(video_game)

                I had found my 1541 drive in a box in the garage a couple years back.. Finally threw it out..I had scrapped the c64 that was on a shelf in closet a few years before..

                Should of prob kept them - would of been a fun project maybe to get it working.. But finally had to start clearing stuff out.. Like when am I ever going to use this ISA 10mbit network card, or this old video card, etc. etc.

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                  provels
                  last edited by Jan 20, 2021, 6:08 PM

                  Who has a Bernoulli drive? βœ‹

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                    gabacho4 Rebel Alliance
                    last edited by Jan 20, 2021, 6:13 PM

                    My very first computer was a C64. Family got it when I was in 8th grade. Would put my favorite 5.25 inch floppy in the drive (no that's not what she said...), type run pitfall.exe, hit enter, and enjoy some adventure and doom...

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                      DaddyGo @johnpoz
                      last edited by Jan 20, 2021, 6:17 PM

                      @johnpoz said in 2.4.5p1 ISO too large for CD:

                      Wow - brings back memories.

                      Nostalgia is good, only a few can enjoy it, the average age of the forum is young and that's good!!!!

                      Yeah and here are the guys whining that it doesn't work the multiplayer on PS4 and Xbox on a same subnet with two, three, four machines in same time... -behind the firewall - we didn't even know what the firewall used to be.... WTF

                      John, - it was damn good too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Bros._II

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                        DaddyGo @gabacho4
                        last edited by DaddyGo Jan 20, 2021, 6:23 PM Jan 20, 2021, 6:20 PM

                        @gabacho4 said in 2.4.5p1 ISO too large for CD:

                        My very first computer was a C64.

                        welcome to the club πŸ˜‰

                        it was my real first, but there was only one piece in school:

                        https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinclair_Spectrum

                        +++edit:

                        and this but this is a Hungarian development, it was promising but failed (8 bit, huhuhuhu)

                        https://homelab.8bit.hu/

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                          rosmaniac @DaddyGo
                          last edited by Jan 20, 2021, 6:29 PM

                          @daddygo said in 2.4.5p1 ISO too large for CD:

                          Nostalgia is good, only a few can enjoy it, the average age of the forum is young and that's good!!!!

                          If you enjoy this kind of not-on-topic vintage computer conversation, you'd probably like the Vintage Computer Forums at www.vcfed.org/forum where vintage nostalgia is completely on-topic.

                          In any case, I got the answer (and attention to the issue) I was after, and hopefully the non-profit client will be able to get some newer kit donated. At least I'm not trying to port pfSense to the old 68020-based Proteon 8200 routers we have in the basement.....

                          Thanks all!

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                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @DaddyGo
                            last edited by Jan 20, 2021, 6:30 PM

                            My first was a trs-80, had a sinclar 1000 as well. Use to walk to the library to use a PET ;)

                            Back in the days of where you use to connect the phone handset into the modem... And you could type faster than the modem could handle..

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                              rosmaniac @DaddyGo
                              last edited by Jan 20, 2021, 6:36 PM

                              @daddygo said in 2.4.5p1 ISO too large for CD:

                              @rosmaniac said in 2.4.5p1 ISO too large for CD:

                              I've been running *a nix for 30 years; familiar with progress I am, understand the Netgate reasoning I do, but caught in a bind I be. 2.4.4p3 is still supported

                              I say I'm sorry... πŸ˜‰

                              Yeah, my first *nix was Tandy Xenix on a TRS-80 Model 16 (68000 processor); it was actual real Unix as ported by Microsoft and Tandy.

                              I didn't read it carefully enough, that you use the previous version as a "springboard" for installation, 2.4.5-p1

                              Right; I had no intention of staying on the old version, just boot to it and update. I had to do the same thing with CentOS 8 on a much newer server that still didn't like the USB stick for some reason; 8.2 fits on a DVD-DL but 8.3 doesn't. So I'll boot 8.2 and install, and then immediately upgrade to 8.3.

                              It’s good to hear that there are still people who selflessly help the other. PEACE πŸ‘

                              We try!

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                                Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate @rosmaniac
                                last edited by Jan 20, 2021, 6:46 PM

                                I moved twice in the last 2 years. Almost nothing "vintage" survived.

                                I did just find a Hayes Smartmodem 1200 in a box though. ;)

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                                  DaddyGo @johnpoz
                                  last edited by Jan 20, 2021, 6:53 PM

                                  @johnpoz said in 2.4.5p1 ISO too large for CD:

                                  And you could type faster than the modem could handle..

                                  hey, well try this today,....through these FTTH, DOCSIS, IPoE, etc

                                  but we must be able to type faster, we have been learning for a long time...

                                  so, we are no longer "chickens" which is born today....
                                  it’s good to know that these old stuff was everywhere in the world :)

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                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Derelict
                                    last edited by Jan 20, 2021, 6:53 PM

                                    @derelict said in 2.4.5p1 ISO too large for CD:

                                    I did just find a Hayes Smartmodem 1200 in a box though. ;)

                                    You should calculate the cost of shipping that across country ;) heheh

                                    Well prob not.. Nothing good could come from that..

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                                      DaddyGo @Derelict
                                      last edited by DaddyGo Jan 20, 2021, 7:04 PM Jan 20, 2021, 7:03 PM

                                      @derelict said in 2.4.5p1 ISO too large for CD:

                                      I moved twice in the last 2 years. Almost nothing "vintage" survived.

                                      these stuff (C64 / I. and II.) survived, because they "live" in my parents house... :)
                                      they have lived in one place for more than 65 years
                                      my parents, not the C64 :)

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                                        provels @Derelict
                                        last edited by Jan 20, 2021, 7:05 PM

                                        @derelict said in 2.4.5p1 ISO too large for CD:

                                        Hayes Smartmodem 1200

                                        Hard one of those on my 486. Free to me when my work upgraded to 2400. Dialed up ATI in Canada to download my first-ever driver update. Cost me about $45 in phone charges. Pretty sure I sold it on EBay eventually. SMH

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                                          DaddyGo @provels
                                          last edited by DaddyGo Jan 20, 2021, 7:12 PM Jan 20, 2021, 7:09 PM

                                          @provels said in 2.4.5p1 ISO too large for CD:

                                          Hard one of those on my 486.

                                          I have two of these, I have kept them as objects of remembrance, hmmm:

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                                          +++edit:
                                          MMX instruction set, hhuhuhuh

                                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMX_(instruction_set)

                                          +++edit2:

                                          I almost forgot and this: - horror GPU :)

                                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S3_Savage

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