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    • noplanN
      noplan @JKnott
      last edited by

      @jknott

      hi,
      if u plan tu use pfBlocker and play a little with DNSBL (DNS-based Blackhole List)
      then the more RAM u have the better.

      have u thought about gettin a NETGATE SG1100 box depending on your use case ...
      and by the way much cooler than the aliX import ;)

      AES and Intel Nics are keepin u headache free ;)

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      • noplanN
        noplan @NogBadTheBad
        last edited by

        @nogbadthebad said in New hardware:

        TBH

        ?? damn i'm from europe i dont speak emojii ;)

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        • NogBadTheBadN
          NogBadTheBad @noplan
          last edited by

          @noplan said in New hardware:

          @nogbadthebad said in New hardware:

          TBH

          ?? damn i'm from europe i dont speak emojii ;)

          I'm in Europe too šŸ‡¬šŸ‡§

          TBH = To Be Honest

          Andy

          1 x Netgate SG-4860 - 3 x Linksys LGS308P - 1 x Aruba InstantOn AP22

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          • JKnottJ
            JKnott @NogBadTheBad
            last edited by

            @nogbadthebad said in New hardware:

            Hes talking about pfBlocker

            I don't use pfblocker.

            PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
            i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
            UniFi AC-Lite access point

            I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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            • JKnottJ
              JKnott @noplan
              last edited by

              @noplan said in New hardware:

              have u thought about gettin a NETGATE SG1100 box

              When that was discussed earlier, the opinion was that it was a bit anemic and to go for a better model.

              PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
              i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
              UniFi AC-Lite access point

              I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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              • noplanN
                noplan @JKnott
                last edited by

                @jknott

                have a look SG-2100 here a little over 300 EUR not including VAT

                @ SG1100 same here !

                but compare it wirh the SG2100 maybe it fits

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                • noplanN
                  noplan @NogBadTheBad
                  last edited by

                  @nogbadthebad said in New hardware:

                  I'm in Europe too

                  No you are not ! You kicked yourself out !

                  :😁 šŸ˜€

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                  • JKnottJ
                    JKnott @noplan
                    last edited by

                    @noplan said in New hardware:

                    but compare it wirh the SG2100 maybe it fits

                    It's about twice the price of the Qotom I selected.

                    PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                    i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                    UniFi AC-Lite access point

                    I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                    • noplanN
                      noplan @JKnott
                      last edited by

                      @jknott 053d9e79-bdd6-4f17-a7dc-b26b2fad97a6-grafik.png

                      but the shippin from them to me flippy expensive

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                      • bingo600B
                        bingo600 @noplan
                        last edited by bingo600

                        @noplan

                        Isn't shipping around $40 w. DHL ?

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                        pfSense+ 23.05.1 (ZFS)

                        QOTOM-Q355G4 Quad Lan.
                        CPUĀ  : Core i5 5250U, Ram : 8GB Kingston DDR3LV 1600
                        LANĀ  : 4 x Intel 211, DiskĀ  : 240G SAMSUNG MZ7L3240HCHQ SSD

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                        • noplanN
                          noplan @bingo600
                          last edited by

                          @bingo600

                          i think i'll get a new toy ;) but i think customs declaration & import tax will kill the benefit

                          7eeca1df-bbb5-40d2-9cf7-00658b24961c-grafik.png

                          but @ netgate i found this
                          79597b5f-8add-4c03-8d9b-33ccb5d0a04a-grafik.png

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                          • JKnottJ
                            JKnott @JKnott
                            last edited by

                            @jknott said in New hardware:

                            @noplan said in New hardware:

                            but compare it wirh the SG2100 maybe it fits

                            It's about twice the price of the Qotom I selected.

                            Hmmm... Somehow I got the idea it was twice the price, but on checking further it appears to be roughly the same. Which would have better performance? The Qotom is an i5 CPU and has Intel NICs, but the Netgate has an ARM CPU and Marvel NICs. Both have 4 GB.

                            PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                            i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                            UniFi AC-Lite access point

                            I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                            • noplanN
                              noplan @JKnott
                              last edited by

                              @jknott

                              depends on your use case, and on how long u wanna use the "box"
                              if u are a home/lab user and planning to use the box till it dies go with the netgate box considering the future possibility to go all in with the pfS+ version they are talkin about

                              and hey its a netgate box vs a china box ;)

                              dont get me wrong i really dont have a clue what hardware i m gonna buy in the next 6 months

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                              • ?
                                A Former User @noplan
                                last edited by

                                @noplan said in New hardware:

                                and hey its a netgate box vs a china box

                                Exactly where do you think the Netgate device is manufactured?

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                                • JKnottJ
                                  JKnott @A Former User
                                  last edited by

                                  @jwj

                                  As was the Unifi AP I recently bought. Does the Netgate have those AES-NI instructions?

                                  PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                                  i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                                  UniFi AC-Lite access point

                                  I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                                  • bingo600B
                                    bingo600 @JKnott
                                    last edited by

                                    @jknott said in New hardware:

                                    @jwj

                                    Does the Netgate have those AES-NI instructions?

                                    AES-NI is an Intel extension

                                    If you find my answer useful - Please give the post a šŸ‘ - "thumbs up"

                                    pfSense+ 23.05.1 (ZFS)

                                    QOTOM-Q355G4 Quad Lan.
                                    CPUĀ  : Core i5 5250U, Ram : 8GB Kingston DDR3LV 1600
                                    LANĀ  : 4 x Intel 211, DiskĀ  : 240G SAMSUNG MZ7L3240HCHQ SSD

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                                    • ?
                                      A Former User @JKnott
                                      last edited by A Former User

                                      @jknott No. It doesn't. The i5 will crush the ARM device for single thread performance and OpenVPN throughput. Question is, do you need that performance? Netgate box will be more energy efficient.

                                      For what it's worth, I've always seen the 5100 as entry level. Then I cried inside at the price... The LAN<->LAN filtering rates is what I pay attention to. I would want line speed.

                                      2020_Netgate_Hardware_Comparison_Chart.png

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                                      • JKnottJ
                                        JKnott @bingo600
                                        last edited by

                                        @bingo600 said in New hardware:

                                        AES-NI is an Intel extension

                                        It's on other CPUs too.

                                        PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                                        i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                                        UniFi AC-Lite access point

                                        I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                                        • bingo600B
                                          bingo600 @JKnott
                                          last edited by bingo600

                                          @jknott said in New hardware:

                                          @bingo600 said in New hardware:

                                          AES-NI is an Intel extension

                                          It's on other CPUs too.

                                          Please mention just one ARM CPU that has it (AES-NI)

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                                          pfSense+ 23.05.1 (ZFS)

                                          QOTOM-Q355G4 Quad Lan.
                                          CPUĀ  : Core i5 5250U, Ram : 8GB Kingston DDR3LV 1600
                                          LANĀ  : 4 x Intel 211, DiskĀ  : 240G SAMSUNG MZ7L3240HCHQ SSD

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                                          • JKnottJ
                                            JKnott @A Former User
                                            last edited by

                                            @jwj said in New hardware:

                                            No. It doesn't. The i5 will crush the ARM device for single thread performance and OpenVPN throughput. Question is, do you need that performance? Netgate box will be more energy efficient.

                                            The Netgate takes a 12V 2A power supply, which means it runs less than 24W. The Qotom takes 15W, so there's not much difference. As for the AES-NI instructions, it wasn't that long ago that plans were dropped to require them. I don't have much of a need for those, as I only occasionally use the VPN, but I wouldn't want to lose the ability to update the software for the lack of them.

                                            PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                                            i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                                            UniFi AC-Lite access point

                                            I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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