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    • noplanN
      noplan @NogBadTheBad
      last edited by

      @nogbadthebad said in New hardware:

      TBH

      ?? damn i'm from europe i dont speak emojii ;)

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      • NogBadTheBadN
        NogBadTheBad @noplan
        last edited by

        @noplan said in New hardware:

        @nogbadthebad said in New hardware:

        TBH

        ?? damn i'm from europe i dont speak emojii ;)

        I'm in Europe too šŸ‡¬šŸ‡§

        TBH = To Be Honest

        Andy

        1 x Netgate SG-4860 - 3 x Linksys LGS308P - 1 x Aruba InstantOn AP22

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        • JKnottJ
          JKnott @NogBadTheBad
          last edited by

          @nogbadthebad said in New hardware:

          Hes talking about pfBlocker

          I don't use pfblocker.

          PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
          i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
          UniFi AC-Lite access point

          I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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          • JKnottJ
            JKnott @noplan
            last edited by

            @noplan said in New hardware:

            have u thought about gettin a NETGATE SG1100 box

            When that was discussed earlier, the opinion was that it was a bit anemic and to go for a better model.

            PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
            i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
            UniFi AC-Lite access point

            I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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            • noplanN
              noplan @JKnott
              last edited by

              @jknott

              have a look SG-2100 here a little over 300 EUR not including VAT

              @ SG1100 same here !

              but compare it wirh the SG2100 maybe it fits

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              • noplanN
                noplan @NogBadTheBad
                last edited by

                @nogbadthebad said in New hardware:

                I'm in Europe too

                No you are not ! You kicked yourself out !

                :😁 šŸ˜€

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                • JKnottJ
                  JKnott @noplan
                  last edited by

                  @noplan said in New hardware:

                  but compare it wirh the SG2100 maybe it fits

                  It's about twice the price of the Qotom I selected.

                  PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                  i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                  UniFi AC-Lite access point

                  I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                  • noplanN
                    noplan @JKnott
                    last edited by

                    @jknott 053d9e79-bdd6-4f17-a7dc-b26b2fad97a6-grafik.png

                    but the shippin from them to me flippy expensive

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                    • bingo600B
                      bingo600 @noplan
                      last edited by bingo600

                      @noplan

                      Isn't shipping around $40 w. DHL ?

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                      pfSense+ 23.05.1 (ZFS)

                      QOTOM-Q355G4 Quad Lan.
                      CPUĀ  : Core i5 5250U, Ram : 8GB Kingston DDR3LV 1600
                      LANĀ  : 4 x Intel 211, DiskĀ  : 240G SAMSUNG MZ7L3240HCHQ SSD

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                      • noplanN
                        noplan @bingo600
                        last edited by

                        @bingo600

                        i think i'll get a new toy ;) but i think customs declaration & import tax will kill the benefit

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                        but @ netgate i found this
                        79597b5f-8add-4c03-8d9b-33ccb5d0a04a-grafik.png

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                        • JKnottJ
                          JKnott @JKnott
                          last edited by

                          @jknott said in New hardware:

                          @noplan said in New hardware:

                          but compare it wirh the SG2100 maybe it fits

                          It's about twice the price of the Qotom I selected.

                          Hmmm... Somehow I got the idea it was twice the price, but on checking further it appears to be roughly the same. Which would have better performance? The Qotom is an i5 CPU and has Intel NICs, but the Netgate has an ARM CPU and Marvel NICs. Both have 4 GB.

                          PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                          i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                          UniFi AC-Lite access point

                          I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                          • noplanN
                            noplan @JKnott
                            last edited by

                            @jknott

                            depends on your use case, and on how long u wanna use the "box"
                            if u are a home/lab user and planning to use the box till it dies go with the netgate box considering the future possibility to go all in with the pfS+ version they are talkin about

                            and hey its a netgate box vs a china box ;)

                            dont get me wrong i really dont have a clue what hardware i m gonna buy in the next 6 months

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                            • ?
                              A Former User @noplan
                              last edited by

                              @noplan said in New hardware:

                              and hey its a netgate box vs a china box

                              Exactly where do you think the Netgate device is manufactured?

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                              • JKnottJ
                                JKnott @A Former User
                                last edited by

                                @jwj

                                As was the Unifi AP I recently bought. Does the Netgate have those AES-NI instructions?

                                PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                                i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                                UniFi AC-Lite access point

                                I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                                • bingo600B
                                  bingo600 @JKnott
                                  last edited by

                                  @jknott said in New hardware:

                                  @jwj

                                  Does the Netgate have those AES-NI instructions?

                                  AES-NI is an Intel extension

                                  If you find my answer useful - Please give the post a šŸ‘ - "thumbs up"

                                  pfSense+ 23.05.1 (ZFS)

                                  QOTOM-Q355G4 Quad Lan.
                                  CPUĀ  : Core i5 5250U, Ram : 8GB Kingston DDR3LV 1600
                                  LANĀ  : 4 x Intel 211, DiskĀ  : 240G SAMSUNG MZ7L3240HCHQ SSD

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                                  • ?
                                    A Former User @JKnott
                                    last edited by A Former User

                                    @jknott No. It doesn't. The i5 will crush the ARM device for single thread performance and OpenVPN throughput. Question is, do you need that performance? Netgate box will be more energy efficient.

                                    For what it's worth, I've always seen the 5100 as entry level. Then I cried inside at the price... The LAN<->LAN filtering rates is what I pay attention to. I would want line speed.

                                    2020_Netgate_Hardware_Comparison_Chart.png

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                                    • JKnottJ
                                      JKnott @bingo600
                                      last edited by

                                      @bingo600 said in New hardware:

                                      AES-NI is an Intel extension

                                      It's on other CPUs too.

                                      PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                                      i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                                      UniFi AC-Lite access point

                                      I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                                      • bingo600B
                                        bingo600 @JKnott
                                        last edited by bingo600

                                        @jknott said in New hardware:

                                        @bingo600 said in New hardware:

                                        AES-NI is an Intel extension

                                        It's on other CPUs too.

                                        Please mention just one ARM CPU that has it (AES-NI)

                                        If you find my answer useful - Please give the post a šŸ‘ - "thumbs up"

                                        pfSense+ 23.05.1 (ZFS)

                                        QOTOM-Q355G4 Quad Lan.
                                        CPUĀ  : Core i5 5250U, Ram : 8GB Kingston DDR3LV 1600
                                        LANĀ  : 4 x Intel 211, DiskĀ  : 240G SAMSUNG MZ7L3240HCHQ SSD

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                                        • JKnottJ
                                          JKnott @A Former User
                                          last edited by

                                          @jwj said in New hardware:

                                          No. It doesn't. The i5 will crush the ARM device for single thread performance and OpenVPN throughput. Question is, do you need that performance? Netgate box will be more energy efficient.

                                          The Netgate takes a 12V 2A power supply, which means it runs less than 24W. The Qotom takes 15W, so there's not much difference. As for the AES-NI instructions, it wasn't that long ago that plans were dropped to require them. I don't have much of a need for those, as I only occasionally use the VPN, but I wouldn't want to lose the ability to update the software for the lack of them.

                                          PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                                          i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                                          UniFi AC-Lite access point

                                          I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                                          • JKnottJ
                                            JKnott @bingo600
                                            last edited by

                                            @bingo600 said in New hardware:

                                            Please mention just one ARM CPU that has it (AES-NI)

                                            According to that article I linked to, several do.

                                            PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                                            i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                                            UniFi AC-Lite access point

                                            I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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