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    • Cool_CoronaC Offline
      Cool_Corona @stephenw10
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      @stephenw10

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        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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        ...and your routing table?

        This could be an IPV6 issue....

        Steve

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        • Cool_CoronaC Offline
          Cool_Corona @stephenw10
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          @stephenw10 Some IP info in there that I dont want on the forum...

          Running netstat -r

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            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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            Can you ping6 to (www.)google.com?

            Do either of those other google domains return v6 IPs?

            You'll have to check your own routing tables then. Does it all look correct?

            Steve

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              Cool_Corona @stephenw10
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              @stephenw10

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                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Cool_Corona
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                That would never work.. You don't have a global address it seems, that source is link-local

                But not sure how you could not have a route, you have to have a default route.

                Do a traceroute to the IPv4 that comes back for www.google.com

                But as we have now seen, you are not able to go to www.google.com at all - not that you can go there but searches are not working ;)

                Something seems really odd that you can ping, but fetch says no route. Can you ping from pfsense? Or that ping was from your client.

                Do you have any vpn setup on pfsense, where your doing policy routing for your clients?

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                • stephenw10S Offline
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                  Pings work from a client behind pfSense but we have not seen them work from pfSense itself.

                  So client traffic could be policy routed maybe.

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                    Cool_Corona @johnpoz
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                    @johnpoz said in Google.com blocked but local google domains are not....:

                    That would never work.. You don't have a global address it seems, that source is link-local

                    But not sure how you could not have a route, you have to have a default route.

                    Do a traceroute to the IPv4 that comes back for www.google.com

                    But as we have now seen, you are not able to go to www.google.com at all - not that you can go there but searches are not working ;)

                    Something seems really odd that you can ping, but fetch says no route. Can you ping from pfsense? Or that ping was from your client.

                    Do you have any vpn setup on pfsense, where your doing policy routing for your clients?

                    The ping was from pfsense itself

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                      Cool_Corona @stephenw10
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                      @stephenw10 said in Google.com blocked but local google domains are not....:

                      Pings work from a client behind pfSense but we have not seen them work from pfSense itself.

                      So client traffic could be policy routed maybe.

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                      • stephenw10S Offline
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                        The ping you showed above was from a Windows client it looked like.
                        Otherwise I have no idea how that succeeded whilst fetch shows no route. Unless something changed in between those.

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                          Cool_Corona @stephenw10
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                          @stephenw10 said in Google.com blocked but local google domains are not....:

                          The ping you showed above was from a Windows client it looked like.
                          Otherwise I have no idea how that succeeded whilst fetch shows no route. Unless something changed in between those.

                          Just upgraded to 2.5.0 without issues and problem is gone. Why I havent got a clue about....

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                          • stephenw10S Offline
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                            Ha, well take the win. 😁

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                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @stephenw10
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                              Yeah I say take the win - but makes no sense..

                              The problem with such solutions - if you want to call them that. Is you never know what the actual cause of the issue was.

                              If you could ping it - clearly there was a route.. And there is always the default route. I don't know enough about fetch to know why it might show such an error. But clearly if fetch could not load www.google.com something going on. The no route error could be a red herring sort of error.. Where that is not actually the problem.

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                                Cool_Corona @johnpoz
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                                @johnpoz I do agree. The update shouldnt have fixed it, but it did.

                                And yes its been bothering me for quite some time and I havent got a clue why. There is just no logic at all.

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                                  Cool_Corona @Cool_Corona
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                                  I was to quick....

                                  Its back with no contact with google.com

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                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Cool_Corona
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                                    So sniff on your wan and try to go to www.googhe.com - do you see a syn go out?

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                                      @johnpoz said in Google.com blocked but local google domains are not....:

                                      So sniff on your wan and try to go to www.googhe.com - do you see a syn go out?

                                      Not at all. It seems the UDP traffic is routed via the RDP client via the local client connected. I see a lot of UDP back and forth to the external IP of the client machine

                                      Its mega weird...

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                                        Gertjan @Cool_Corona
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                                        @cool_corona said in Google.com blocked but local google domains are not....:

                                        UDP traffic is routed via the RDP client via the local client connected. I see

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                                        UDP ?
                                        RDP ?

                                        Where is google.com ? That one is TCP - and what has Google to do with RDP ?

                                        No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                                        Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Cool_Corona
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                                          @cool_corona said in Google.com blocked but local google domains are not....:

                                          It seems the UDP traffic is routed via the RDP client via the local client connected

                                          Huh???

                                          Here - I sniff on my wan for the www.google.com IP..

                                          I then open a browser to https://www.google.com - and you see the SYN sent, and then syn,ack back and the conversation.

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                                          • Cool_CoronaC Offline
                                            Cool_Corona @johnpoz
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                                            @johnpoz I see nothing to google.com in the packet captures....

                                            Like in NOTHING. Despite typing www.google.com in the adress bar of the browser.

                                            Locally I run the ASUS RTAX88U and pfsense runs on a server at the office and is accessed via RDP.

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