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    • Cool_CoronaC Offline
      Cool_Corona @johnpoz
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      @johnpoz said in Google.com blocked but local google domains are not....:

      google.com is not www.google.com

      Pinging google.com [216.58.192.206] with 32 bytes of data:
      Reply from 216.58.192.206: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=116
      
      Pinging www.google.com [172.217.164.100] with 32 bytes of data:
      Reply from 172.217.164.100: bytes=32 time=72ms TTL=111
      

      Your get in your "video" is for www.google.com

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      When fails...

      You never WENT to www.google.com - you did a search in firefox browser... You didn't load www.google.com in your browser like I show in my example.

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      The search from FF times out when searching www.google.com. When I visit www.google.com from the browser it works fine.

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      • Cool_CoronaC Offline
        Cool_Corona @Cool_Corona
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        This is what I get when searching from FF on a startpage....

        This is what I get if I type www.google.com directly

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        • johnpozJ Offline
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Cool_Corona
          last edited by johnpoz

          Where is that working - I see a get.. I don't see the OK (200) response. Where is the rest of what that would show if you actually went there and pulled data.. Again see my example.

          I want nothing more than to help you figure out what the problem is.. But I fail to understand why this has to be like pulling teeth with a pair of chopsticks..

          Here is a simple test.. do a fetch www.google.com from pfsense. Look what you get..

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          Then do the same test from something behind pfsense.. If pfsense works but your machine is not..

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          • Cool_CoronaC Offline
            Cool_Corona @johnpoz
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            @johnpoz said in Google.com blocked but local google domains are not....:

            Where is that working - I see a get.. I don't see the OK (200) response. Where is the rest of what that would show if you actually went there and pulled data.. Again see my example.

            I want nothing more than to help you figure out what the problem is.. But I fail to understand why this has to be like pulling teeth with a pair of chopsticks..

            Here is a simple test.. do a fetch www.google.com from pfsense. Look what you get..

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            I know but I dont get anymore than that as a reply and then it times out.

            Looking a local google domains, its not a problem

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            • stephenw10S Offline
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
              last edited by

              If you get no response from www.google.com then how does it work when you visit the page?

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              • Cool_CoronaC Offline
                Cool_Corona @stephenw10
                last edited by

                @stephenw10

                I get this from pfsense

                fetch: https://www.google.com: No route to host

                I cant visit the page. I get no reply.

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                Everything else than .com works flawlessly

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                • stephenw10S Offline
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by stephenw10

                  Ah, so a routing problem.

                  Run host www.google.com and show us your routing table.

                  Though you see to be able to ping it..... but maybe not from pfSense itself.

                  Steve

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                  • Cool_CoronaC Offline
                    Cool_Corona @stephenw10
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                    @stephenw10

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                    • stephenw10S Offline
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by

                      ...and your routing table?

                      This could be an IPV6 issue....

                      Steve

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                      • Cool_CoronaC Offline
                        Cool_Corona @stephenw10
                        last edited by

                        @stephenw10 Some IP info in there that I dont want on the forum...

                        Running netstat -r

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                        • stephenw10S Offline
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by

                          Can you ping6 to (www.)google.com?

                          Do either of those other google domains return v6 IPs?

                          You'll have to check your own routing tables then. Does it all look correct?

                          Steve

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                          • Cool_CoronaC Offline
                            Cool_Corona @stephenw10
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                            @stephenw10

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                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Cool_Corona
                              last edited by johnpoz

                              That would never work.. You don't have a global address it seems, that source is link-local

                              But not sure how you could not have a route, you have to have a default route.

                              Do a traceroute to the IPv4 that comes back for www.google.com

                              But as we have now seen, you are not able to go to www.google.com at all - not that you can go there but searches are not working ;)

                              Something seems really odd that you can ping, but fetch says no route. Can you ping from pfsense? Or that ping was from your client.

                              Do you have any vpn setup on pfsense, where your doing policy routing for your clients?

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                              • stephenw10S Offline
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by

                                Pings work from a client behind pfSense but we have not seen them work from pfSense itself.

                                So client traffic could be policy routed maybe.

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                                  Cool_Corona @johnpoz
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                                  @johnpoz said in Google.com blocked but local google domains are not....:

                                  That would never work.. You don't have a global address it seems, that source is link-local

                                  But not sure how you could not have a route, you have to have a default route.

                                  Do a traceroute to the IPv4 that comes back for www.google.com

                                  But as we have now seen, you are not able to go to www.google.com at all - not that you can go there but searches are not working ;)

                                  Something seems really odd that you can ping, but fetch says no route. Can you ping from pfsense? Or that ping was from your client.

                                  Do you have any vpn setup on pfsense, where your doing policy routing for your clients?

                                  The ping was from pfsense itself

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                                  • Cool_CoronaC Offline
                                    Cool_Corona @stephenw10
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                                    @stephenw10 said in Google.com blocked but local google domains are not....:

                                    Pings work from a client behind pfSense but we have not seen them work from pfSense itself.

                                    So client traffic could be policy routed maybe.

                                    Outbound NAT

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                                    • stephenw10S Offline
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                      The ping you showed above was from a Windows client it looked like.
                                      Otherwise I have no idea how that succeeded whilst fetch shows no route. Unless something changed in between those.

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                                      • Cool_CoronaC Offline
                                        Cool_Corona @stephenw10
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                                        @stephenw10 said in Google.com blocked but local google domains are not....:

                                        The ping you showed above was from a Windows client it looked like.
                                        Otherwise I have no idea how that succeeded whilst fetch shows no route. Unless something changed in between those.

                                        Just upgraded to 2.5.0 without issues and problem is gone. Why I havent got a clue about....

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                                        • stephenw10S Offline
                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                          Ha, well take the win. 😁

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                                          • johnpozJ Offline
                                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @stephenw10
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                                            Yeah I say take the win - but makes no sense..

                                            The problem with such solutions - if you want to call them that. Is you never know what the actual cause of the issue was.

                                            If you could ping it - clearly there was a route.. And there is always the default route. I don't know enough about fetch to know why it might show such an error. But clearly if fetch could not load www.google.com something going on. The no route error could be a red herring sort of error.. Where that is not actually the problem.

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