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Upgrade to 21.02-RELEASE borked on SG-3100

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    rabbiwan
    last edited by Feb 19, 2021, 7:56 AM

    Hello,
    Yesterday, I have re-installedmy device SG3100 with the firmware 21.02.
    I have contact the support and them wend me the image to flash the device.
    I have doing the configuration. During 2 hours no problem but after the system has explose and all the configuration has down like the other time....
    I will try to downgrade the version...

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      shadtheman
      last edited by Feb 19, 2021, 9:10 AM

      Same problem here, SG-3100 (21.02) runs for anything up to a few hours and then just locks up completely. Hard reset required, logs do not yield any clues at this stage. I've only got two packages installed PfBlockerNG and BandwidthD. Will try another clean install but not very hopeful as others have found this has not solved the problem.
      Also just wondering if this problem is primarily occurring with the SG-3100.

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        Kuser @shadtheman
        last edited by Feb 19, 2021, 2:26 PM

        I have two devices available. First experienced problems right away, the other remote install just crashed/became unresponsible after ~1.5 day.

        After power cycle openvpn now works, but stopped routing internal subnets/forwarding traffic. Unable to connect to gui.

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          geeklex
          last edited by Feb 19, 2021, 4:35 PM

          Netgate just updated their twitter account with this.

          Netgate
          @NetgateUSA

          A problem has been reported by some users of the Netgate SG-3100 appliance who have upgraded to pfSense Plus version 21.02. Our engineering team is working to correct the issue as quickly as possible. In the meantime, we have suspend the upgrade for the SG-3100.

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            jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
            last edited by Feb 19, 2021, 5:11 PM

            As a temporary workaround until we can put out a fix, you can reduce the number of CPUs used by the OS to 1 by adding hw.ncpu=1 to /boot/loader.conf.local and then rebooting. You'll lose some performance but it appears (so far) to not trigger the issue when set that way. Otherwise, you can step back to 2.4.5-p1 and wait for a fix.

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              EvaKnievel @jimp
              last edited by Feb 19, 2021, 5:24 PM

              @jimp How do we rollback to the previous version?

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                jsnaza @EvaKnievel
                last edited by Feb 19, 2021, 5:34 PM

                @evaknievel Information on how to downgrade is here:
                https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/solutions/sg-3100/reinstall-pfsense.html

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                  EvaKnievel @jsnaza
                  last edited by Feb 19, 2021, 5:44 PM

                  @jsnaza we are talking minimum 2 days for a fix right?

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                    jsnaza @EvaKnievel
                    last edited by Feb 19, 2021, 5:48 PM

                    @evaknievel I am not sure I am just another person that ran into this issue and downgraded. I am not one of the developers. I am just sharing the knowledge I have.

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                      lohphat @jimp
                      last edited by lohphat Feb 19, 2021, 6:03 PM Feb 19, 2021, 5:49 PM

                      @jimp Thank you.

                      What may also be helpful is to inform the user base on what the release QA process is and how this may have slipped through testing.

                      Infrastructure component updates are highly sensitive (as you're well aware) and thus confidence in quality is key to keeping "customers" confident in the product.

                      Shit happens but there should be a post-mortem to figure out how this slipped by.

                      SG-3100 24.11-RELEASE (arm) | Avahi (2.2_6) | ntopng (5.6.0_1) | openvpn-client-export (1.9.5) | pfBlockerNG-devel (3.2.1_20) | System_Patches (2.2.20_1)

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                        EvaKnievel @jimp
                        last edited by Feb 19, 2021, 5:51 PM

                        @jimp we are talking minimum 2 days for this fix right?

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                          lohphat @jimp
                          last edited by Feb 19, 2021, 6:02 PM

                          @jimp If we make the single CPU change in 2.4.5-p1 before we install the update, will that setting persist after the initial reboot into 21.02?

                          SG-3100 24.11-RELEASE (arm) | Avahi (2.2_6) | ntopng (5.6.0_1) | openvpn-client-export (1.9.5) | pfBlockerNG-devel (3.2.1_20) | System_Patches (2.2.20_1)

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                            yaminb @yaminb
                            last edited by Feb 19, 2021, 6:57 PM

                            @yaminb
                            Should update myself. Looks like my sg 3100 just crashed as well after about 1 day. reboot seems to have it back in order.

                            I'll try the 1 cpu temporary fix

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                              ahking19 @lohphat
                              last edited by Feb 19, 2021, 6:57 PM

                              @lohphat if you have a SG-3100 don't upgrade until a fix is available. Stay on 2.4.5-p1.

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                                yaminb @jimp
                                last edited by Feb 19, 2021, 7:03 PM

                                @jimp said in Upgrade to 21.02-RELEASE borked on SG-3100:

                                hw.ncpu=1

                                Really silly question just for completeness.

                                I don't have a loader.conf.local.

                                I made the change in loader.conf. I'm assuming this is good.

                                /boot: cat loader.conf 
                                kern.shutdown.secure_halt=1
                                kern.cam.boot_delay=10000
                                kern.ipc.nmbclusters="1000000"
                                hw.ncpu=1
                                boot_serial="YES"
                                console="comconsole"
                                comconsole_speed="115200"
                                hw.e6000sw.default_disabled=1
                                autoboot_delay="3"
                                hw.hn.vf_transparent="0"
                                hw.hn.use_if_start="1"
                                
                                
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                                  jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                                  last edited by Feb 19, 2021, 7:27 PM

                                  Create /boot/loader.conf.local if it doesn't exist, as loader.conf can be overwritten by pfSense.

                                  @lohphat said in Upgrade to 21.02-RELEASE borked on SG-3100:

                                  what the release QA process is and how this may have slipped through testing.

                                  Several of us have 3100s and use them in various ways, including a couple of us using them on the edge, running snapshots, but this problem takes a specific load and setup to trigger that apparently none of us hit somehow. Usually dogfooding the snapshots catches most things, but there are many more real-world configurations than we can possibly test.

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                                    rsherwood_va @jimp
                                    last edited by Feb 19, 2021, 7:43 PM

                                    @jimp said in Upgrade to 21.02-RELEASE borked on SG-3100:

                                    Usually dogfooding the snapshots catches most things, but there are many more real-world configurations than we can possibly test.

                                    I don't think my config is all that exotic, but should I share it with you all? Do you know what the issue is?

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                                      jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                                      last edited by Feb 19, 2021, 8:10 PM

                                      We found a way to reliably trigger it here in lab conditions so we can work on it, no need to provide more info at the moment.

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                                        lohphat @ahking19
                                        last edited by Feb 19, 2021, 8:37 PM

                                        @ahking19 Clearly. I'm usually don't mind being a testing guinea pig but not this week, too much going on.

                                        SG-3100 24.11-RELEASE (arm) | Avahi (2.2_6) | ntopng (5.6.0_1) | openvpn-client-export (1.9.5) | pfBlockerNG-devel (3.2.1_20) | System_Patches (2.2.20_1)

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                                          Meizel
                                          last edited by Feb 19, 2021, 11:14 PM

                                          Hi All,

                                          Yesterday dune the update and you can tell, also for me not good.
                                          My SG-3100 is stuck and keeps hanging in to A boot loop....

                                          With the serial connected, I can see that the Marvell U-Boot is OK.
                                          When it start to boot pfsense i got this error.

                                          Netgate.PNG

                                          So need to create A ticket for reinstalling pfsense.
                                          So my network needs to rely on mu ubnt ER-8 pro.

                                          Greetings Dennis

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