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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @wblanton
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      @wblanton If it shipped yesterday it will not have the update so the firsts thing you do when you get it is run the upgrade.

      Steve

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        songtancurly
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        Good evening all,

        I just finished upgrading my SG-3100 to the 21.02-RELEASE-p1 (arm). I had no problems with it.
        Thanks for the quick fix and support in getting us through this issue.

        Keep up the excellent work!

        Thanks again and have a good day.

        Sincerely,

        William
        Songtan, ROK

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          NokkieF
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          thanks for the feedback and good to hear that everybody got it to work (even if it took a hard reboot). I will attempt my update later today.

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          • LuketaL
            Luketa
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            I have a SG-3100 in version 2.4.5-RELEASE-p1, I saw that the update came out but I decided to wait, after a few days I researched and found that the version had some errors.
            version 21.02_1 is already available but I'm still afraid to update, this client runs 24 hours service, as they update, they pass on feedback.
            thank you.

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              flsnowbird @Luketa
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              My SG-3100 is also stuck with 3 lights flashing after upgrading to 21.02_1 and I'm remote. Guess I shouldn't try these updates remotely since they are hit or miss. Now family has to wait 3 hours till I get home :(

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                jcbeckman @flsnowbird
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                @flsnowbird Or tell them to unplug it then plug it back in. If it's frozen it shouldn't matter.

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                • AmarandA
                  Amarand @jcbeckman
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                  @jcbeckman

                  Agree. After letting it sit for an hour, and connecting a console (no output), I realized it was safe to pull the plug. It ended up resolving the issue.

                  I also submitted my logs to Netgate support so they could maybe try to figure out why some devices were locking up. Maybe you could open a support ticket and submit your logs to them?

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                  • LuketaL
                    Luketa @flsnowbird
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                    @flsnowbird
                    jesus christ, i can't even think of staying more than 10 minutes without a firewall, there are several clinics around the clock, let me know if after hanging up and calling you decided.
                    I'm afraid of this update

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                      flsnowbird
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                      @luketa I can't ask them to unplug it because the cables are not labeled and there's a lot more critical equipment plugged in that I don't want them to unplug by mistake. They'll just have to wait.
                      @Amarand I did open a ticket and they asked me to hook up a USB console cable to see what's going on. Can't really do that until I get home.

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                      • AmarandA
                        Amarand @Luketa
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                        @luketa

                        No one here in the thread has had a failure during the installation other than the flashing-lights lock-up. Probably shouldn't upgrade a firewall remotely without smart-hands in place. And you probably shouldn't upgrade a firewall during core business hours - that's just common sense.

                        Myself, I did it during the day because sometimes you just forget the rules above, and you cowboy a fix.

                        But if it gets to that point where all three lights are flashing, you're probably just a power cycle away from being up, which is only a minute or two. I waited an hour to see if it was in some sort of upgrade state, like "do not interrupt" or something.

                        I only power cycled after verifying no output on the console.

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                        • AmarandA
                          Amarand @flsnowbird
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                          @flsnowbird

                          My guess is, from personal experience, you'll hook it up, and see nothing. You'll type characters/return/enter and it will echo your keys, but won't actually do anything other than echoing.

                          You'll pull the power, and plug it back in, and the console will spring to life, showing you the latest version at the serial console menu.

                          That seems to be the consensus.

                          As an aside, it's super easy to see/feel which is the power cable, because it's connected with a screw-on protective ring, whereas everything else on the SG-3100 isn't.

                          So if you tell them to look for a silver ring on the back right (looking down from the top, from the front), it should be the ONLY thing with a silver screw-ring.

                          I think you can also hit the Reset button with a toothpick or paperclip, and that acts as a quick restart without clearing your settings, but I've never tried that, so I don't know what the reset button's rules are.

                          Intuitively, a quick press would reboot, and a long-press (more than a few seconds) would reset to factory defaults or put you into a safe mode.

                          Anyway, good luck! It's good to read these replies, because it makes me feel like maybe I'm not alone with my lock-up experience, and it also gives me more confidence when I have issues in the future.

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                          • AmarandA
                            Amarand @flsnowbird
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                            @flsnowbird

                            Also, I know I've mentioned this a few times before in this thread alone but, how cool is it that Netgate includes a serial USB console cable with the unit? Heck, even my iPhone isn't including a charging brick anymore and this was only half the cost. How many $399 units are all metal, too? It's a really nice unit.

                            Since I bought mine last May, I've had exactly one problem with it (this one), and I could have 100% avoided this problem by ignoring this upgrade for a week or two. But I like upgrading my stuff as soon as new versions come out, so that's on me. 🤷‍♂️

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                              flsnowbird @Amarand
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                              @amarand thanks for the tips and recommendation, but like you mentioned, I have no "smart-hands" available at home at the moment. No big deal, their streaming/ps5 playing will have to wait a few hours.

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                                sehiser @Amarand
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                                @amarand Agreed. 🤣 🤣 🤣

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                                  NokkieF
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                                  Just upgraded from 21.02 to the new 21.02-RELEASE-p1. Had no trouble!
                                  I am wondering if the people that have the 3 blinking light problem are upgrading from 2.4.5?

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                                    sdd @NokkieF
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                                    +1

                                    I'd like to know too -- I need this fix, but watching this thread has convinced me that I should request the updated USB image, and block out an hour during "off-peak" usage to attempt the upgrade.

                                    If folks upgrading from 21.02 aren't having any issues, I might roll the dice.

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                                      flsnowbird @sdd
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                                      @sdd @NokkieF I upgraded from 21.02 to 21.02_1 and had the 3 blinking lights.

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                                      • AmarandA
                                        Amarand @NokkieF
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                                        @nokkief

                                        I upgraded to 21.02 with no issues.

                                        I then experienced the hanging, so I added the CPU limiter workaround.

                                        The -p1 hotfix released, and I applied it from the web-site.

                                        The upgrade log showed, in the web-browser, "success" at the end, no errors.

                                        After five minutes of "retying, please wait" and no SSH response, I went downstairs to see the blinking lights.

                                        I forgot about the console/cable, and opened a ticket with Netgate because I wasn't sure if I should unplug a system that was potentially in the process of upgrading. That's a good way to actually brick any appliance/embedded system.

                                        After figuring out that the console was the safest way forward, got that hooked up, saw no response on the console, and decided a power cycle was warranted. That was almost an hour from upgrade.

                                        -p1 came back up just fine.

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                                        • AmarandA
                                          Amarand @sdd
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                                          @sdd said in pfSense Plus and SG-3100:

                                          +1

                                          I'd like to know too -- I need this fix, but watching this thread has convinced me that I should request the updated USB image, and block out an hour during "off-peak" usage to attempt the upgrade.

                                          Installing "off-peak" is always a good idea anyway.

                                          If folks upgrading from 21.02 aren't having any issues, I might roll the dice.

                                          If you're physically there by the firewall, go ahead and apply it, as long as you can afford a short outage. But I would have a serial console hooked up and watching BEFORE you apply. This way, you can see where it's hanging, if it hangs.

                                          As an aside, for me, it applied -p1 from 21.02, hung, I power cycled, it came up on -p1 hotfix. It shouldn't have locked up post-install, but it did successfully update.

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                                            Amarand @flsnowbird
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                                            @flsnowbird

                                            Oh, and, of course, if you have folks at home who are willing to trace that power cable from the back of the unit, to where it plugs into the wall, that might be easier to unplug, wait a few seconds, then plug it back in. That's slightly easier than unscrewing the screw.

                                            I already have my kid trained to detect cable modem issues based on LED statuses. He knows how to unplug the cable modem and the main house networking switch, watch for things to come back up, and knows how to report that back to me.

                                            Might be good opportunity to train your family!

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