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    • yon 0Y
      yon 0 @Derelict
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      @derelict said in IPv6 broken beyond pfSense after 2.5 upgrade:

      @yon-0 I can guarantee you that nobody who is successfully announcing an IPv6 /48 has that /48 on an interface.

      i using /48 setup interface in ubuntu 20.10 system and runing frr 7.5

      eth0: flags=4163<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST>  mtu 9000
              inet 185.154.1.130  netmask 255.255.254.0  broadcast 185.154.1.255
              inet6 2a0d:2405:512::1  prefixlen 48  scopeid 0x0<global>
              inet6 fe80::278:34ff:fee6:2f3f  prefixlen 64  scopeid 0x20<link>
              ether 00:70:30:e6:2f:3f  txqueuelen 200000  (Ethernet)
              RX packets 35921977  bytes 19914818009 (19.9 GB)
              RX errors 0  dropped 8  overruns 0  frame 0
              TX packets 24672157  bytes 19845868488 (19.8 GB)
              TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 0  collisions 0
      
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      • yon 0Y
        yon 0 @Derelict
        last edited by yon 0

        @derelict said in IPv6 broken beyond pfSense after 2.5 upgrade:

        Anyone else?

        240C::6666 240C::6644

        DIG Output:
        dig @240C::6666 yahoo.com SOA

        ; <<>> DiG 9.11.4-P2-RedHat-9.11.4-26.P2.el7_9.3 <<>> @240C::6666 yahoo.com SOA
        ; (1 server found)
        ;; global options: +cmd
        ;; Got answer:
        ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 58824
        ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1

        ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
        ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
        ;; QUESTION SECTION:
        ;yahoo.com. IN SOA

        ;; ANSWER SECTION:
        yahoo.com. 1800 IN SOA ns1.yahoo.com. hostmaster.yahoo-inc.com. 2021022619 3600 300 1814400 600

        ;; Query time: 18 msec
        ;; SERVER: 240c::6666#53(240c::6666)
        ;; WHEN: Sat Feb 27 00:52:23 CET 2021
        ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 99

        ---- Finished ------

        https://bgp.he.net/ip/240C::6666

        it is using /28 ipv6 for interface and bgp

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        • yon 0Y
          yon 0 @yon 0
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          DIG Output:
          dig @2001:da8::666 yahoo.com SOA

          ; <<>> DiG 9.11.4-P2-RedHat-9.11.4-26.P2.el7_9.3 <<>> @2001:da8::666 yahoo.com SOA
          ; (1 server found)
          ;; global options: +cmd
          ;; Got answer:
          ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 41270
          ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1

          ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
          ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
          ;; QUESTION SECTION:
          ;yahoo.com. IN SOA

          ;; ANSWER SECTION:
          yahoo.com. 1800 IN SOA ns1.yahoo.com. hostmaster.yahoo-inc.com. 2021022619 3600 300 1814400 600

          ;; Query time: 418 msec
          ;; SERVER: 2001:da8::666#53(2001:da8::666)
          ;; WHEN: Sat Feb 27 01:00:26 CET 2021
          ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 102

          ---- Finished ------

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          • DerelictD
            Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate @yon 0
            last edited by

            @yon-0 Yet here you are with problems.

            Untitled 2.png

            Instead of arguing with me about it, please argue with Douglas Comer instead.

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            • DerelictD
              Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate @yon 0
              last edited by

              @yon-0 You are confusing routes and allocations with interface addressing. Please read up on the difference. Happy to help you but in this case you are wrong (and continue to belabor an incorrect position) and your IPv6 journey will be much more successful if you adhere to the established rules, standards, and protocols instead of making up your own.

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              A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
              DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
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              • yon 0Y
                yon 0 @Derelict
                last edited by

                @derelict

                I tested it with a previous version of pfsense before, and /48 works. DHCP can work with /48 test in windows 10. /48 SLAAC maybe can't work for andriod system. This is the result of the previous test. But if you set static ip, there is no problem. for all system.
                I have always used /48 on the LAN interface and BGP broadcasts, and it has been working. This time you adjusted the limit, so I found this change. I suggest that the decision is given to users to decide how large the IP segment to use.
                You can prompt the recommended value and other information, but don't force the user to use what

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                • yon 0Y
                  yon 0 @Derelict
                  last edited by

                  @derelict

                  I used to set /48 on the LAN interface to work, but it pf2.5 doesn’t work anymore now. This is the actual change

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                  • johnpozJ
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @yon 0
                    last edited by johnpoz

                    @yon-0 said in IPv6 broken beyond pfSense after 2.5 upgrade:

                    it is using /28 ipv6 for interface and bgp

                    Just because AS45275 is a /28, where did you get that idea that address is 240C::6666 is using a /28 on some interface?? Sorry but that is just insane!

                    I used to set /48 on the LAN interface to work, but it pf2.5 doesn’t work anymore now. This is the actual change

                    Yeah because they prob put in logic to stop users from doing insane shit ;)

                    I suggest that the decision is given to users to decide how large the IP segment to use.

                    Not when they are going to BREAK all logic and think they could put a /48 on an interface..

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                    • yon 0Y
                      yon 0 @johnpoz
                      last edited by

                      @johnpoz

                      These IP addresses run DNS servers, so the 240C::6666 IP must be set in the interface. if that ip has no setup in interface, how we can connect it? if your not allow /48 or other setup interface , how i do setup use /32 or /48 Shortest ip in LAN's servers?

                      No, I don’t think so, I think you force others what you think is impossible.

                      DIG Output:
                      dig  @2620:0:ccc::2 yahoo.com SOA 
                      
                      
                      ; <<>> DiG 9.11.4-P2-RedHat-9.11.4-26.P2.el7_9.3 <<>> @2620:0:ccc::2 yahoo.com SOA
                      ; (1 server found)
                      ;; global options: +cmd
                      ;; Got answer:
                      ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 38691
                      ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1
                      
                      ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
                      ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
                      ;; QUESTION SECTION:
                      ;yahoo.com.			IN	SOA
                      
                      ;; ANSWER SECTION:
                      yahoo.com.		127	IN	SOA	ns1.yahoo.com. hostmaster.yahoo-inc.com. 2021022619 3600 300 1814400 600
                      
                      ;; Query time: 7 msec
                      ;; SERVER: 2620:0:ccc::2#53(2620:0:ccc::2)
                      ;; WHEN: Sat Feb 27 01:24:57 CET 2021
                      ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 99
                      
                      
                       ---- Finished ------ 
                      
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                      • DerelictD
                        Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate @yon 0
                        last edited by

                        @yon-0 said in IPv6 broken beyond pfSense after 2.5 upgrade:

                        2620:0:ccc::2

                        That is 2620:0:ccc:0::2/64. Guaranteed. You do realize that zero compression can include bits from both the subnet and interface portion of the address, right?

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                        A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                        DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
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                        • yon 0Y
                          yon 0 @Derelict
                          last edited by

                          @derelict

                          Does this 240C::6666 ip use /64 or what?
                          My point of view is to leave it to users to decide what is right, and we can provide suggested values.

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                          • DerelictD
                            Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate @yon 0
                            last edited by

                            @yon-0 The standards and RFCs dictate what's right.

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                            • DerelictD
                              Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate @yon 0
                              last edited by Derelict

                              @yon-0 said in IPv6 broken beyond pfSense after 2.5 upgrade:

                              @derelict

                              Does this 240C::6666 ip use /64 or what?

                              Yes, if it is on an interface it is 240c:0:0:0::6666/64

                              You certainly cannot tell from afar based on the allocation or the route. I GUARANTEE they do not have a 240c::/16 on an interface though.

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                              A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                              DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
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                                lnguyen @yon 0
                                last edited by

                                @yon-0 You are just flat out wrong. The largest subnet to be used on an interface is /64. To suggest anything else just means you do not understand or have not read the RFCs for IPv6.

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                                • yon 0Y
                                  yon 0 @mrsunfire
                                  last edited by

                                  https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-690

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                                  • johnpozJ
                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @yon 0
                                    last edited by johnpoz

                                    Yeah so.. What does that have to do with anything?

                                    The part where they say you should allocate a /48 to users? Completely agree - that has ZERO to do with putting a /48 on an interface.

                                    I have a /48 from HE for example.. Putting a /48 on interface would make all 65k of those 64's useless!

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                                    • yon 0Y
                                      yon 0 @mrsunfire
                                      last edited by

                                      FRR v7.5.1 change to must setup /48 or above in Lan interface now, if the pfsense has no any interface setup /48 prefix, then ipv6
                                      lost normal work. i have been test frr7.5.1 in ubuntu 20..10 system get the same result.

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                                      • johnpozJ
                                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @yon 0
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                                        @yon-0 said in IPv6 broken beyond pfSense after 2.5 upgrade:

                                        FRR v7.5.1 change to must setup /48 or above in Lan interface now

                                        Dude NO is doesn't... I am sorry you are not understanding how this works... But you DO NOT PUT a /48 on an interface - PERIOD!!

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                                        • yon 0Y
                                          yon 0 @johnpoz
                                          last edited by

                                          @johnpoz

                                          Maybe I don't understand the theory, I just summarize the practical experience, if I run FRR7.5.1 then this happens. I just reflect the situation encountered.

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                                          • johnpozJ
                                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @yon 0
                                            last edited by

                                            Your not understanding how to setup a route without putting in on the interface??

                                            This goes same for IPv4... If have a /30 that connects 2 routers, are you saying I can not route a /8 through those? Or a /16 etc.. Because the network needs to be on the interface? How would routing ever work..

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                                            If you get confused: Listen to the Music Play
                                            Please don't Chat/PM me for help, unless mod related
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