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    • yon 0Y
      yon 0 @Derelict
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      @derelict

      Does this 240C::6666 ip use /64 or what?
      My point of view is to leave it to users to decide what is right, and we can provide suggested values.

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      • DerelictD
        Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate @yon 0
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        @yon-0 The standards and RFCs dictate what's right.

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          Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate @yon 0
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          @yon-0 said in IPv6 broken beyond pfSense after 2.5 upgrade:

          @derelict

          Does this 240C::6666 ip use /64 or what?

          Yes, if it is on an interface it is 240c:0:0:0::6666/64

          You certainly cannot tell from afar based on the allocation or the route. I GUARANTEE they do not have a 240c::/16 on an interface though.

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            lnguyen @yon 0
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            @yon-0 You are just flat out wrong. The largest subnet to be used on an interface is /64. To suggest anything else just means you do not understand or have not read the RFCs for IPv6.

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              yon 0 @mrsunfire
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              https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-690

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              • johnpozJ
                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @yon 0
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                Yeah so.. What does that have to do with anything?

                The part where they say you should allocate a /48 to users? Completely agree - that has ZERO to do with putting a /48 on an interface.

                I have a /48 from HE for example.. Putting a /48 on interface would make all 65k of those 64's useless!

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                • yon 0Y
                  yon 0 @mrsunfire
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                  FRR v7.5.1 change to must setup /48 or above in Lan interface now, if the pfsense has no any interface setup /48 prefix, then ipv6
                  lost normal work. i have been test frr7.5.1 in ubuntu 20..10 system get the same result.

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                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @yon 0
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                    @yon-0 said in IPv6 broken beyond pfSense after 2.5 upgrade:

                    FRR v7.5.1 change to must setup /48 or above in Lan interface now

                    Dude NO is doesn't... I am sorry you are not understanding how this works... But you DO NOT PUT a /48 on an interface - PERIOD!!

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                    • yon 0Y
                      yon 0 @johnpoz
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                      @johnpoz

                      Maybe I don't understand the theory, I just summarize the practical experience, if I run FRR7.5.1 then this happens. I just reflect the situation encountered.

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                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @yon 0
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                        Your not understanding how to setup a route without putting in on the interface??

                        This goes same for IPv4... If have a /30 that connects 2 routers, are you saying I can not route a /8 through those? Or a /16 etc.. Because the network needs to be on the interface? How would routing ever work..

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                        • DerelictD
                          Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate @yon 0
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                          @yon-0 The whole point of BGP is to announce routes that are reachable. If the route is not reachable, it will not be announced.

                          That does not mean that the only method of making a route reachable is to number an interface with it.

                          This is what you get when you simply add a network statement for a /48 without the route being reachable:

                          # show bgp ipv6
                          BGP table version is 5, local router ID is 172.25.232.1, vrf id 0
                          Default local pref 100, local AS 65001
                          Status codes:  s suppressed, d damped, h history, * valid, > best, = multipath,
                                         i internal, r RIB-failure, S Stale, R Removed
                          Nexthop codes: @NNN nexthop's vrf id, < announce-nh-self
                          Origin codes:  i - IGP, e - EGP, ? - incomplete
                          
                             Network          Next Hop            Metric LocPrf Weight Path
                          *> ::/0             fe80::bc7f:82ff:feea:ecf8
                                                                       0         32768 ?
                             2001:470:beef::/48
                                              ::                       0         32768 i
                          
                          Displayed  2 routes and 2 total paths
                          

                          Note there is no * indicating a valid route. That means it will not be announced by BGP.

                          Now,

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                          Now it is both active * and best > and announced to the peer

                          Codes: K - kernel route, C - connected, S - static, R - RIPng,
                                 O - OSPFv3, I - IS-IS, B - BGP, N - NHRP, T - Table,
                                 v - VNC, V - VNC-Direct, A - Babel, D - SHARP, F - PBR,
                                 f - OpenFabric,
                                 > - selected route, * - FIB route, q - queued, r - rejected, b - backup
                          
                          K>* ::/0 [0/0] via fe80::bc7f:82ff:feea:ecf8, lo0, 00:01:15
                          S>* 2001:470:beef::/48 [1/0] unreachable (blackhole), weight 1, 00:01:15
                          
                          vtysh# show bgp ipv6 neighbors 172.25.228.58 advertised-routes 
                          BGP table version is 3, local router ID is 172.25.232.1, vrf id 0
                          Default local pref 100, local AS 65001
                          Status codes:  s suppressed, d damped, h history, * valid, > best, = multipath,
                                         i internal, r RIB-failure, S Stale, R Removed
                          Nexthop codes: @NNN nexthop's vrf id, < announce-nh-self
                          Origin codes:  i - IGP, e - EGP, ? - incomplete
                          
                             Network          Next Hop            Metric LocPrf Weight Path
                          *> ::/0             ::                       0         32768 ?
                          *> 2001:470:beef::/48
                                              ::                       0         32768 ?
                          

                          I sent that traffic to Null/Blackhole but if there are any longer prefixes (like /64 interface routes) they will be the preferred route for that traffic. It also has a status of unreachable because it is a null route but BGP is coerced into announcing it.

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                            yon 0 @Derelict
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                            @derelict

                            I had used /48 in pf 2.4.5 and pf 2.5beta was
                            normal work.

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                              lnguyen @yon 0
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                              @yon-0 You share one bit in common with a /48, quite dense.

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                              • DerelictD
                                Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate @yon 0
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                                @yon-0 said in IPv6 broken beyond pfSense after 2.5 upgrade:

                                @derelict

                                I had used /48 in pf 2.4.5 and pf 2.5beta was
                                normal work.

                                It is going to be very difficult to get developer time to "fix" something in what amounts to a nonsensical configuration.

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                                A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
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                                • johnpozJ
                                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Derelict
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                                  Why stop there.. While they are at - let me put a /32 on the interface.. That is the min sized prefix you get from arin ;) so you might as well let me put it on my interface - I might want to route it <rolleyes>

                                  And clearly the only way to route anything is put it on an interface..

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