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    • YanikY Offline
      Yanik @TAC57
      last edited by

      @tac57 said in To 2.5.1 or not ? that is the question :):

      @yanik Did you get your port forwarding working in 2.5.1?

      I'm having the same issues on port forwarding to my Synology box and Plex Server (FreeNAS box). :-(

      To roll back from pfSense 2.5.1 to 2.5.0 can I just restore my 2.5.0 backup config file, or would I have to do a clean install of pfSense 2.5.0 first and then restore the 2.5.0 backup?

      No, 2.5.1 port forwarding doesnt work.
      I reinstalled pfsense v2.4.5_1 with zfs instead of ufs to able to have snapshots before upgrades.

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        JustWantItToWork
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        Upgrade from 2.5.0 to 2.5.1 went quickly and mostly fine on my netgate RCC-VE 2440. I have a pretty basic setup with a few vlans and pfblocker. The only issue I noticed was that DNS was not working. A subsequent reboot solved that.

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          marvosa @JustWantItToWork
          last edited by marvosa

          My starting point was a working v2.5.0 install with no issues. Here is the sequence of events after upgrading to v2.5.1 this morning:

          1. PFsense unable to route traffic after boot up.
          2. Unable to ping google.com or 8.8.8.8 from PC
          3. Bounced the DNS forwarder service, no change
          4. Rebooted PFsense, no change
          5. Still unable to ping google.com or 8.8.8.8 from PC
          6. Verified PFsense itself can ping 8.8.8.8
          7. Verified correct default gateway was selected
          8. Rebooted PFsense a 2nd time, no change
          9. Verified I am able to ping my L3 switch and PFsense, but unable to ping my WAN_DHCP gateway IP (i.e. cable modem)
          10. Power cycled cable modem
          11. We have Internet!

          I've never had to bounce my cable modem with any other upgrades (including 2.4.5-p1 to 2.5.0), so it's unclear why a power cycle was needed after this latest upgrade from 2.5.0 to 2.5.1.

          I would be cautious about any remote upgrades to this version. This would've been a disaster if I performed the upgrade remotely and wasn't on-site to troubleshoot the outage.

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          • GertjanG Offline
            Gertjan @marvosa
            last edited by

            @marvosa
            Let me redo you list :

            1 PFsense unable to route traffic after boot up.
            1a) does it have a WAN IP ? Is it a valid IP ? Does it have a gateway ? Are these addresses known / seen before.

            I'll be looking at the DHCP client log. Checking if there was a dialog that looks 'normal' between the pfSense DHCP client, and the upstream DHCP server, where ever that may be.

            Step 2 to 11 : sending a ping to some remote network, knowing there is no 'route' only proves there is no route.
            Restarting DNS doesn't has anything to do with routes. When using IP addresses as 8.8.8.8, DNS functionality isn't used anyway. Also, if there is no 'route', DNS wouldn't work anyway.

            Very true : Modem devices have most often nothing to set up, and should be transparent.
            The reality is different : the most strange things are shown on this forum : modem that flap their NIX state several times during reboot or connection re negotiation. Or assign a RFC1918 while the connection isn't build yet.

            After pfSEnse has been undergoing a major update, a planned reboot is part of the 'validation process'. Just to be sure that, if it reboots in your absence, things land on their feeds.

            It's hard to say what happened in your case, but it could be something like this :
            Updating pfsense to 2.5.0 needs a kernel update. To do this, it needs to reboot to load the new kernel. The reboot will take you pfSense WAN NIC down for a moment. The mdoem sees this, and act upon that event, like : a upstream re negotiation.
            pfSense boots fast, the modem is (to) slow to open a new connection to the ISP. The pfSense WAN DHCP client repeats over an over a DHCP DISCOVER. This request never reaches the upstream DHCP server : the question is why this dead lock situation exists - why it is created ?
            Many modems (ISPs) have their own explanation. This forum has many examples about modems not being very cooperative.
            To work out something that works for every situation, the pfSense DHCP client has some 'advanced' options could be very useful.

            No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
            Edit : and where are the logs ??

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            • AlanesiA Offline
              Alanesi
              last edited by

              I cannot access my local servers from the internet after the update to 2.5.1 while it was working before the update.
              I have checked the firewall but nothing blocked. No changes on the port forwarding.
              I can access Pfsense from the internet using HTTPS but not my local server which using HTTP.

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              • GertjanG Offline
                Gertjan @Alanesi
                last edited by Gertjan

                @alanesi said in To 2.5.1 or not ? that is the question :):

                I can access Pfsense from the internet using HTTPS

                To make that work, you need a firewall rule on the WAN interface.

                @alanesi said in To 2.5.1 or not ? that is the question :):

                but not my local server which using HTTP

                To make that work, you need a NAT rule.

                To make it work again, you need to do some step by step NAT troubleshooting.
                Can't tell you nothing because you told us close to nothing.

                2 details :
                Opening your https pfSense webserver to the Internet should be IP limited. Normally, its just is not done.
                The IP you use to connect to the pfSense from the outside (you do connect from the outside, aren't you ?) indicates that you use the right IP.

                edit :

                A real example :

                I have a 'DiskSation' (Synology NAS) living on my LAN. It has IPv4 192.168.1.33
                pfSense has 192.168.1.1/24.

                The HTTPS access of a DiskSation, by default, is 5001.

                I added this NAT rule to pfSense :

                abbddd13-ae42-4d37-aecc-6c824409e4eb-image.png

                and now I can access - from anywhere from the Internet, my DiskSation using https://myip.tld

                Because I'm PATting from 443 to 5001 in pfSense, I t all works right away **

                ** That is : I also had to NAT my upstream ISP router.

                No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                • AlanesiA Offline
                  Alanesi @Gertjan
                  last edited by

                  @gertjan I appreciate your prompt reply.

                  I have reviewed the configurations but still cannot find the issue.

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                    cellobita @Yanik
                    last edited by

                    @yanik Current status, according to https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/11805:

                    • The bug with NAT not working on non-default gateways exists, and has been fixed;

                    • However, the patch involves an issue in the kernel, so it is not possible to patch it in-place.

                    • It will be included in the next release, but no, they do not know when that will be.

                    • From the amount of "I'm experiencing this too" posts there that have been periodically removed by jimp, it seems fairly widespread - I hope that this means that there'll be an interim release prior to 2.6.0, which is far in the future.

                    Marcello Marques
                    Santos - SP - Brazil

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                    • GertjanG Offline
                      Gertjan @cellobita
                      last edited by

                      @cellobita said in To 2.5.1 or not ? that is the question :):

                      From the amount of "I'm experiencing this too" posts there that have been .....

                      Not enough as you can see.

                      No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                      Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                      • Cool_CoronaC Offline
                        Cool_Corona @Alanesi
                        last edited by

                        @alanesi Your doing it wrong.

                        http -> http on wan ports and forwarded to http redirect to internal server

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                          Gertjan @Cool_Corona
                          last edited by

                          @cool_corona

                          Yeah, the port range, from 80 to 82 :

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                          If the port range is needed he would be needing it, I guess.

                          No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                          Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                            cellobita @Gertjan
                            last edited by

                            @gertjan I suppose we've been relegated to second-class citizen status - this won't be the first time that an open source project leaves non-paying users behind. Can't say I'm surprised.

                            OTOH, this has made me look at alternatives to pfSense more closely, which is always a nice idea - one tends to default to familiar paths for new installations (I know I have done that, over the past 12 or so years deploying open source firewalls).

                            Marcello Marques
                            Santos - SP - Brazil

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                              marvosa @Gertjan
                              last edited by

                              @gertjan

                              1a) does it have a WAN IP ? Is it a valid IP ? Does it have a gateway ? Are these addresses known / seen before.

                              Yes to all 4 questions.

                              Step 2 to 11 : sending a ping to some remote network, knowing there is no 'route' only proves there is no route.

                              It proves the router/firewall isn't routing traffic, which is different than not having a route. The default route was there... and the firewall itself was able to get to the internet... but for some reason, PFsense wasn't routing internal traffic to the internet.

                              Restarting DNS doesn't has anything to do with routes.

                              Never said it did. Once the ping to google.com failed, I bounced the DNS service just in case the issue was DNS related vs routing, which has happened before. After that, a failed ping to 8.8.8.8 proved I wasn't able to hit the internet and likely a routing issue of some kind.

                              It's hard to say what happened in your case, but it could be something like this :

                              Updating pfsense to 2.5.0 needs a kernel update. To do this, it needs to reboot to load the new kernel. The reboot will take you pfSense WAN NIC down for a moment. The mdoem sees this, and act upon that event, like : a upstream re negotiation.

                              Anything's possible I suppose. Although, the 2.4.5-p1 -> 2.5.0 upgrade went without issue... it was he 2.5.0 ->2.5.1 that gave me grief, but I get what you're saying. Considering my wife works from home and my son is doing distance learning... I'm just glad I was home to deal with the outage when it happened.

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                              • B Offline
                                BJunior
                                last edited by

                                Can I restore the settings from version 2.5.1 on a 2.5.0 installation? NAT problems scratched my reputation with my users. I never imagined that something like this could happen with an official pfsense release

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                                  Cool_Corona @BJunior
                                  last edited by

                                  @bjunior Yes you can. And a lot has been scratched....

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                                  • B Offline
                                    BJunior @Cool_Corona
                                    last edited by

                                    @cool_corona Thanks for information. I'll do it.

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                                    • AlanesiA Offline
                                      Alanesi @Cool_Corona
                                      last edited by

                                      @cool_corona , @Gertjan It can't say It's wrong as long the port is covered in the range it should work as it was working before. However, I changed it to only port 80 but still the same issue standing. I have the same issue in this line https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/11805:

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                                        shaik
                                        last edited by

                                        Hello Brothers, I create username as existing not admin member user in pfsense 2.5.1, I allow to status - system logs - port authentication to this existing user , but not showed to existing user, please resolve my query.

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                                          geovaneg
                                          last edited by

                                          Hi,

                                          We have a problem here with IPSec mobile clients on 2.5.1 version:

                                          https://forum.netgate.com/topic/164440/disconnect-button-is-dropping-all-active-connections

                                          The 2.4.5-p1 version was solid as a rock.

                                          I´m not very happy with change in version policy of Netgate.

                                          Geovane

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                                            stefanl
                                            last edited by

                                            Just upgraded from 2.4.5-p1 to 2.5.2. Haven't encountered any problems (yet). pfBlockerNG, IPsec and OpenVPN are all working.

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