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    • bingo600B
      bingo600 @brandon-lizard
      last edited by

      @brandon-lizard

      Then i suggest you move the 10.47.1.x network "behind/into" the pfSense.
      Tip: Keep all 10.47.x.x networks behind the pfSense (makes life easier).

      And make a 192.168.47.0/14 network as Transit.

      Now you can still restrict the 10.47.1.x devices via pfSense rules , if 10.47.2.x devices needs to be "protected". And you don't have to bother with portforwarding , as 10.47.1.x is now "behind/inside pfSense".

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      • bingo600B
        bingo600
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        @johnpoz

        Sorry ... for making another suggestion 😊

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          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @bingo600
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          Yeah removing devices off the network being used between linksys and pfsense, would be a better solution yes. And would remove the need to port forward for his networks behind pfsense.

          But I have a sneaky suspicion he also has wireless devices connecting to his linksys router that would not be able to access anything behind pfsense without port forwards.

          If was me, I would ditch the linksys as a router and just use it as an AP. And use pfsense for all his routing needs. Pfsense would get his public IP on its wan.. And all his networks would be behind pfsense.

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          • bingo600B
            bingo600 @brandon-lizard
            last edited by

            @brandon-lizard

            If you want to access the NAS or other "inside" devices from the internet.
            Then just do the portforwards as @johnpoz says , you'll have to do them anyway.

            I'd still suggest using a 192.168.47.0 as the "linksys (transit) net".

            To keep the 10.47.x.x/16 net "inside" the firewall.

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              viragomann @bingo600
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              @bingo600 said in Routing between WAN and LAN:

              Then i suggest you move the 10.47.1.x network "behind/into" the pfSense.

              @brandon-lizard Yeah, I would put all behind pfSense and kick the Linksys.
              Don't scruple due to virtualization. My home main router (pfSense) runs on KVM as well since more than 3 years and does its job very well.

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              • bingo600B
                bingo600 @johnpoz
                last edited by

                @johnpoz said in Routing between WAN and LAN:

                But I have a sneaky suspicion he also has wireless devices connecting to his linksys router that would not be able to access anything behind pfsense without port forwards.

                Ah I didn't see that one comming šŸ‘

                If was me, I would ditch the linksys as a router and just use it as an AP. And use pfsense for all his routing needs. Pfsense would get his public IP on its wan.. And all his networks would be behind pfsense.

                That would be an "elegant" solution , if you "trust" Proxmox to be "Wan".

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                  brandon-lizard @bingo600
                  last edited by brandon-lizard

                  Sorry for not putting in the details. didn't think it mattered.

                  Yes, that's the easiest solution to put everything behind pfsense.

                  But, my hubby will get mad if anything goes down. I was trying not to have the whole network depend on pfsense.

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                  • bingo600B
                    bingo600 @brandon-lizard
                    last edited by bingo600

                    @brandon-lizard

                    If the pfSense goes down , then you won't be able to access the devices on 10.47.2.0/24 from the linksys 10.47.1.0/24 anyways.

                    Then why bother accessing them at all from the "linksys" net.

                    Keep what you have.
                    And if pfSense goes down ,"teach the hubby" to move the cable from switch2 to switch1.

                    Or do you have wireless on the linksys , and that's what the hubby is using ?

                    Edit: Sounds like @johnpoz portforwarding is a winner anyway.
                    I'd still suggest the "All behind pfSense" way.

                    Maybe even get another wireless device to put "behind" the pfSense.
                    Then Hubby can connect to SSID "Inside" when wanting to use the NAS etc ... And SSID "Outside (Linksys wifi)" if pfSense goes down.

                    /Bingo

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                      brandon-lizard @bingo600
                      last edited by

                      @bingo600 Yes, the linksys router is a wireless router that he uses. that router runs our main network (10.47.1.0/24) .

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                      • bingo600B
                        bingo600
                        last edited by bingo600

                        @johnpoz
                        Can i get the brand & model of your "Crystall ball" šŸ¤•
                        I want one

                        @brandon-lizard
                        If you can get/buy another wireless device , you could have 2 SSID's.
                        Existing Linksys (for emergency) when pfSense is down.
                        New device for "Normal use" connected to the NAS Lan

                        /Bingo

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                        LANĀ  : 4 x Intel 211, DiskĀ  : 240G SAMSUNG MZ7L3240HCHQ SSD

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                          brandon-lizard
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                          OK. Here is what I’m going to do. Thanks everyone for your input, I really appreciate it.

                          With T-Mobile, I just realized I have an internet gateway modem, in addition to my cable modem from Comcast. T-mobile gateway isn’t being used at all right now.

                          I will use the internet coming from t-mobile as the WAN, and then plug in my two lans. LAN1 and LAN2. I will use three nics.

                          This should make things easier routing between LAN1 and 2 now right?

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                            brandon-lizard @brandon-lizard
                            last edited by

                            Never-mind. That gateway doesn’t work like a cable modem does. So I ran into a pickle.

                            All I am wanting to do is separate my two networks, having the ability to route between them, and sharing internet.

                            Why does this have to be so hard?

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                            • johnpozJ
                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @brandon-lizard
                              last edited by

                              @brandon-lizard said in Routing between WAN and LAN:

                              Why does this have to be so hard?

                              Its not hard... You have been given multiple options..

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