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      ryk48 @NOCling
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      @nocling Looks like that is what i am using as well. Is there something i am missing in my screenshots?
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      wanup1.png
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        NOCling
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        Strange, i try the 10/1 MBit Settings and it works as expected.
        Ping, Down, UP
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        But now i use 21.05. with so many fixed bugs. The CE will follow shortly. But try a Beta version in productiv is a risk, you have to balance.
        If the limititer is important, you can give it a try.

        Netgate 6100 & Netgate 2100

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          ryk48 @NOCling
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          @nocling yeah that’s why I found it strange no matter what setting i changed it didn’t seem to have any affect.

          I wonder if it has anything to do or doesn’t work well with HA being setup because I have two pfsense boxes running in case one goes down the other picks up. They are vms on different PCs.

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            ryk48 @ryk48
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            @ryk48 I’m running 2.5.1

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              MagikMark
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              For Q management use "Tail Drop" instead, as "Codel" has some bugs on it. The result is pretty much the same.

              For scheduler use "FQ-Codel"

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                ryk48 @MagikMark
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                @magikmark would i set this for both the limiter and its queue? When i set the queue to taildrop it doesn't like that ECN is enabled.

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                  ryk48 @ryk48
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                  @ryk48 assuming what i said was correct, i made those changes and did a dslreports test and once again made zero difference, like it might as well have never been enabled. With my bandwidth set so low i would have expected to see a significant drop in bandwidth when i ran the test, that way id know its actually doing something and I can set the bandwidth back to something more appropriate but no change.

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                    tomashk @ryk48
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                    @ryk48 In the past I observed that the following made big difference while running test on dslreports:

                    • testing on wi-fi vs cable
                    • computer (so poor CPU, NIC and other parts)
                    • antivirus software - even if disabled there was some strange buffering that completely break results - uninstalling has given me normal results
                    • bufferbloat introduced by ISP's devices/software (it might be hard to change anything if your ISP doesn't know what to do to provide good connection :) )

                    I'm just thinking aloud and mention what I have seen when I have been trying to fix my bufferbloat.

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                      ryk48 @tomashk
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                      @tomashk computer is recent and fairly quick, I only run the browser when doing the test. It’s connected via 10gbit fiber to my switch, I’ve got mediacom 1000/50 cable service on a docsis 3.1 modem. I don’t run AV other than built in windows defender. Back when I had 300-500 mbit service the limiters used to work so I’m not sure what’s different now or why no matter what setting I change it seems to have no effect. Not sure if there’s a log I can check to see if it’s even using the limiters.

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                        tomashk @ryk48
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                        @ryk48 to see if limiters are doing anything go to Diagnostics -> Limiter Info

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                        Lines with red arrows don't appear if limiter/fq_codel is not doing anything. Or at least I understand it like that :)

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                          ryk48 @tomashk
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                          @tomashk said in Traffic Shaper w Codel not doing a thing in 2.5:

                          o Diagnostics -> Limiter Info

                          here is what i have:

                          Limiters:
                          00001: 10.000 Mbit/s 0 ms burst 0
                          q131073 1000 sl. 0 flows (1 buckets) sched 65537 weight 0 lmax 0 pri 0 droptail
                          sched 65537 type FIFO flags 0x0 0 buckets 0 active
                          00002: 1.000 Mbit/s 0 ms burst 0
                          q131074 1000 sl. 0 flows (1 buckets) sched 65538 weight 0 lmax 0 pri 0 droptail
                          sched 65538 type FIFO flags 0x0 0 buckets 0 active

                          Schedulers:
                          00001: 10.000 Mbit/s 0 ms burst 0
                          q00001 50 sl. 0 flows (1 buckets) sched 1 weight 0 lmax 0 pri 0 droptail
                          sched 1 type FQ_CODEL flags 0x0 0 buckets 0 active
                          FQ_CODEL target 5ms interval 100ms quantum 1514 limit 10240 flows 1024 ECN
                          Children flowsets: 1
                          00002: 1.000 Mbit/s 0 ms burst 0
                          q00002 50 sl. 0 flows (1 buckets) sched 2 weight 1 lmax 0 pri 0 droptail
                          sched 2 type FQ_CODEL flags 0x0 0 buckets 0 active
                          FQ_CODEL target 5ms interval 100ms quantum 1514 limit 10240 flows 1024 ECN
                          Children flowsets: 2

                          Queues:
                          q00001 50 sl. 0 flows (1 buckets) sched 1 weight 0 lmax 0 pri 0 droptail
                          q00002 50 sl. 0 flows (1 buckets) sched 2 weight 1 lmax 0 pri 0 droptail

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                            tomashk @ryk48
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                            @ryk48 While looking at limiter information, try running some speed test in the background. Lines that I showed on my screenshot disappear if there is no "heavy lifting" done by the limiters. If said lines don't show up during speed test, then it is indicating that fq_codel is not used.

                            (somebody please correct me if I'm wrong at any point - but that way of thinking helped me for my troubleshooting)

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                              MagikMark
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                              Do the ff:

                              Dashboard -> Firewall -> Traffic Shaper -> New Limiter -> New Limiter

                              Tick: Enable Limiter and its Children
                              Name: ISP-Download-Speed
                              Bandwith: 100 Mbps
                              Description: ISP Download Speed
                              Queue: Tail Drop
                              Scheduler: FQ-Codel
                              Tick: ECN

                              SAVE

                              Scheduler: Quantum=300 Limit=20480 Flows=65535

                              SAVE

                              ADD NEW QUEUE

                              Tick: Enable this queue
                              Name: WAN-Upload-Queue
                              Desciption: WAN Upload Queue
                              Queue: Tail Drop

                              SAVE

                              +NEW LIMITER

                              Tick: Enable Limiter and its Children
                              Name: ISP-Upload-Speed
                              Bandwith: 100 Mbps
                              Description: ISP Upload Speed
                              Queue: Tail Drop
                              Scheduler: FQ-Codel
                              Tick: ECN

                              SAVE

                              Scheduler: Quantum=300 Limit=20480 Flows=65535

                              ADD NEW QUEUE

                              Tick: Enable this queue
                              Name: WAN-Download-Queue
                              Desciption: WAN Download Queue
                              Queue: Tail Drop

                              SAVE

                              Firewall->Rules->Floating

                              ADD

                              Action: Match
                              Tick: Apply this action immediately on match
                              Interface: WAN
                              Direction: In
                              Address Family: IPv4
                              Protocol: Any
                              Description: Incoming traffic Queue

                              ADVANCE OPTIONS

                              In/Out Pipe: Wan-Upload-Queue Wan-Download-Queue

                              SAVE

                              ADD BELOW

                              Action: Match
                              Tick: Apply this action immediately on match
                              Interface: WAN
                              Direction: Out
                              Address Family: IPv4
                              Protocol: Any
                              Description: Outgoing traffic Queue

                              ADVANCE OPTIONS

                              In/Out Pipe: Wan-Download-Queue Wan-Upload-Queue

                              SAVE

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                                ryk48 @tomashk
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                                @tomashk when doing a speedtest i don't get that line in the limiter info section.

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                                  ryk48 @MagikMark
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                                  @magikmark Did you mean to have the upload que as part of the download limiter which is backwards from what ive read to set? Same story for firewall floating rules, did you intend to have it set as wandownq | wanupq instead of the other way around for the wan interface on the outbound direction?

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                                    MagikMark @ryk48
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                                    @ryk48 That is how pfsense designed it. When adding queue, you need to do it in the point of view of the interface

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                                      ryk48 @MagikMark
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                                      @magikmark ok, deleted all my limiters and the floating fw rule and did as suggested. I did notice when looking at the status filter reload at the end i have:
                                      There were error(s) loading the rules: /tmp/rules.debug:21: cannot define table bogonsv6: Cannot allocate memory - The line in question reads [21]: table <bogonsv6> persist file "/etc/bogonsv6"

                                      checked the limiter info again while running a speedtest and again no difference at all and no line like above red arrows

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                                        MagikMark
                                        last edited by MagikMark

                                        Under fq_codel scheduler, delete all entries. This will set everything to default

                                        This will help you as well:

                                        https://forum.netgate.com/topic/112527/playing-with-fq_codel-in-2-4/1045

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                                          ryk48 @MagikMark
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                                          @magikmark that did it! now seems to be working as expected! Thanks! It seems like something was stuck or corrupt which may have caused that issue.

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