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    pfTop hangs my GUI in 2.5.2 RC

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved 2.5.2 Release Candidate Snapshots (Retired)
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    • jimpJ
      jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
      last edited by

      Curious. That isn't happening at all here.

      If I run the command at the CLI it dumps data and immediately exits.

      Are you certain your entire system (kernel and base OS) are running the correct and matching versions of 2.5.2-RC?

      : pkg info -x pfSense | grep 2.5.2
      pfSense-2.5.2.r.20210613.1712
      pfSense-base-2.5.2.r.20210613.1712
      pfSense-default-config-2.5.2.r.20210613.1712
      pfSense-kernel-pfSense-2.5.2.r.20210613.1712
      pfSense-rc-2.5.2.r.20210613.1712
      pfSense-repo-2.5.2.r.20210613.1712
      
      : uname -a
      FreeBSD pfsense.home.arpa 12.2-STABLE FreeBSD 12.2-STABLE RELENG_2_5_2-n226655-2ce2a4a2f71 pfSense  amd64
      
      : ls -l `which pftop`
      -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  192352 Jun 10 17:54 /usr/local/sbin/pftop
      
      : sha256 `which pftop`
      SHA256 (/usr/local/sbin/pftop) = 0c525409788804d8d578068cb79408cd4f209dc384ddf65a8865eefe481e2a52
      
      : ldd `which pftop`
      /usr/local/sbin/pftop:
      	libncurses.so.8 => /lib/libncurses.so.8 (0x800279000)
      	libc.so.7 => /lib/libc.so.7 (0x8002d2000)
      

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        Trey @jimp
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        @jimp

        All the same, see:

        pkg info -x pfSense | grep 2.5.2
        pfSense-2.5.2.r.20210613.1712
        pfSense-base-2.5.2.r.20210613.1712
        pfSense-default-config-2.5.2.r.20210613.1712
        pfSense-kernel-pfSense-2.5.2.r.20210613.1712
        pfSense-rc-2.5.2.r.20210613.1712
        pfSense-repo-2.5.2.r.20210613.1712

        uname -a
        FreeBSD pfsense2.... 12.2-STABLE FreeBSD 12.2-STABLE RELENG_2_5_2-n226655-2ce2a4a2f71 pfSense amd64

        ls -l which pftop
        -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 192352 Jun 10 23:54 /usr/local/sbin/pftop

        sha256 which pftop
        SHA256 (/usr/local/sbin/pftop) = 0c525409788804d8d578068cb79408cd4f209dc384ddf65a8865eefe481e2a52

        ldd which pftop
        /usr/local/sbin/pftop:
        libncurses.so.8 => /lib/libncurses.so.8 (0x800279000)
        libc.so.7 => /lib/libc.so.7 (0x8002d2000)

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          maverick_slo @Trey
          last edited by

          Maybe connected:
          2b9d0ca1-e950-4f12-b1d7-fd1189895f5e-image.png

          It hangs my FW, when there are 4 proccesses like this...

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            Trey @maverick_slo
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            @maverick_slo

            Maybe:

            ps -ax | grep pfctl
            8530 - L 42:21.31 /sbin/pfctl -i ovpnc3 -Fs
            17907 - I 0:00.00 sh -c /sbin/pfctl -vvss | /usr/bin/grep creator | /usr/bin/cut -d" " -f7 | /usr/bin/sort -u
            18015 - R 337:49.40 /sbin/pfctl -vvss
            38322 - RN 365:07.87 /sbin/pfctl -ss
            61701 - I 0:00.00 sh -c /sbin/pfctl -vvss | /usr/bin/grep creator | /usr/bin/cut -d" " -f7 | /usr/bin/sort -u
            61787 - L 17:56.93 /sbin/pfctl -vvss
            82409 - I 0:00.00 sh -c /sbin/pfctl -vvss | /usr/bin/grep creator | /usr/bin/cut -d" " -f7 | /usr/bin/sort -u
            82711 - L 198:37.49 /sbin/pfctl -vvss
            84187 - RN 385:23.46 /sbin/pfctl -ss
            95032 - I 0:00.00 sh -c /sbin/pfctl -vvss | /usr/bin/grep creator | /usr/bin/cut -d" " -f7 | /usr/bin/sort -u
            95080 - R 281:20.27 /sbin/pfctl -vvss
            43823 0 S+ 0:00.00 grep pfctl

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              Trey @Trey
              last edited by Trey

              Indeed pfctl and pftop are not very happy, when looking at cpu usage...

              last pid: 46705;  load averages:  4.63,  5.26,  5.75                                                                                                                                                                 up 0+07:02:25  19:51:31
              119 processes: 9 running, 106 sleeping, 1 zombie, 3 lock
              CPU 0:  0.7% user,  0.0% nice, 63.3% system,  0.0% interrupt, 36.0% idle
              CPU 1:  0.0% user,  0.0% nice, 87.4% system,  0.0% interrupt, 12.6% idle
              CPU 2:  0.0% user,  0.0% nice, 51.1% system,  0.0% interrupt, 48.9% idle
              CPU 3:  0.0% user,  0.0% nice, 74.8% system,  0.0% interrupt, 25.2% idle
              CPU 4:  0.0% user,  0.0% nice, 79.7% system,  0.0% interrupt, 20.3% idle
              CPU 5:  0.0% user,  0.0% nice, 63.9% system,  0.0% interrupt, 36.1% idle
              CPU 6:  0.0% user,  0.0% nice, 39.5% system,  0.0% interrupt, 60.5% idle
              CPU 7:  0.0% user,  0.0% nice, 51.9% system,  0.0% interrupt, 48.1% idle
              Mem: 189M Active, 650M Inact, 4241M Wired, 165M Buf, 10G Free
              Swap: 3656M Total, 3656M Free
              
                PID USERNAME    THR PRI NICE   SIZE    RES STATE    C   TIME    WCPU COMMAND
              18015 root          1  20    0   503M    61M CPU7     7 345:55  99.96% pfctl
              38322 root          1  20   20   134M    18M CPU4     4 373:08  99.95% pfctl
              84187 root          1  20   20   134M    18M CPU3     3 393:25  99.91% pfctl
              95080 root          1  80    0   503M    61M RUN      5 289:22  99.90% pfctl
              39212 root          1  20    0   112M    91M CPU6     6  18:23  62.80% pftop
              39821 root          1  80    0   112M    92M *pf_id   4  15:57  38.04% pftop
              30353 root          1  72    0   146M  3636K RUN      7   2:32   2.41% pftop
              11621 root          1  20    0   113M    98M *pf_id   5  15:43   2.41% pftop
              40726 root          1  75    0   112M  3264K CPU1     1  18:52   1.00% pftop
              82711 root          1  81    0   503M    61M CPU0     0 199:33   0.95% pfctl
              18221 root          1  20    0    17M  7284K select   4   1:21   0.37% openvpn
              45830 root          1  20    0    13M  3740K CPU5     5   0:00   0.07% top
              93616 unbound       8  20    0   232M    50M kqread   7   0:06   0.06% unbound
              
              
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              • jimpJ
                jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
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                Can you share your /tmp/rules.debug?

                Do you have any packages installed?

                Any large pf tables/aliases? If so, how large?

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                  maverick_slo @jimp
                  last edited by

                  @jimp
                  Packages
                  acme security 0.6.9_3 Automated Certificate Management Environment, for automated use of LetsEncrypt certificates.

                  Package Dependencies:
                  pecl-ssh2-1.3.1โ€ƒ socat-1.7.4.1_1โ€ƒ php74-7.4.20โ€ƒ php74-ftp-7.4.20โ€ƒ
                  Cron sysutils 0.3.7_5 The cron utility is used to manage commands on a schedule.
                  haproxy-devel net 0.62_3 The Reliable, High Performance TCP/HTTP(S) Load Balancer.
                  This package implements the TCP, HTTP and HTTPS balancing features from haproxy.
                  Supports ACLs for smart backend switching.

                  Package Dependencies:
                  haproxy-2.2.14โ€ƒ
                  iperf benchmarks 3.0.2_5 Iperf is a tool for testing network throughput, loss, and jitter.

                  Package Dependencies:
                  iperf3-3.10.1โ€ƒ
                  openvpn-client-export security 1.6_1 Allows a pre-configured OpenVPN Windows Client or Mac OS X's Viscosity configuration bundle to be exported directly from pfSense.

                  Package Dependencies:
                  openvpn-client-export-2.5.2โ€ƒ openvpn-2.5.2_2โ€ƒ zip-3.0_1โ€ƒ p7zip-16.02_3โ€ƒ
                  snort

                  No large tables at all.. largest has like 5 entries

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                    Trey @jimp
                    last edited by

                    @jimp

                    I can share files and screen, but not in this forum. To many IPs in there.

                    Packages:
                    FRR, FreeRadius, OpenVPN Client Export

                    Aliases:

                    Couple of our networks, like 12x 192.168.0.0/24 networks, couple of dns aliases,
                    did have bogus network on in the interface config, and disabled it now, but i think you have to reboot...

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                    • jimpJ
                      jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                      last edited by

                      Is this bare metal hardware or a VM?

                      How many CPUs/cores?

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                        Trey @jimp
                        last edited by

                        @jimp

                        Bare metal SuperMicro:
                        Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU C3758 @ 2.20GHz
                        8 CPUs: 1 package(s) x 8 core(s)
                        AES-NI CPU Crypto: Yes (active)
                        QAT Crypto: Yes (inactive)

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                        • jimpJ
                          jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                          last edited by jimp

                          I thought maybe https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/10414 had popped back up, but I can't replicate it using the commands that used to trigger it before. It's worth trying on your hardware though to see what happens.

                          Do you have bogons enabled?

                          If so, try the following commands:

                          $ /etc/rc.update_bogons.sh 0
                          $ time pfctl -t bogonsv6 -T flush
                          $ time pfctl -t bogonsv6 -T add -f /etc/bogonsv6
                          $ time pfctl -t bogonsv6 -T add -f /etc/bogonsv6
                          

                          (yes, that last one is done twice)

                          You may have to reboot before doing that if it's already in the bad state it was in before.

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                            Trey @jimp
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                            @jimp

                            time pfctl -t bogonsv6 -T flush
                            122609 addresses deleted.
                            0.000u 0.048s 0:00.04 100.0%    240+210k 0+0io 0pf+0w
                            
                             time pfctl -t bogonsv6 -T add -f /etc/bogonsv6
                            122609/122609 addresses added.
                            0.226u 0.218s 0:00.44 97.7%     212+185k 0+0io 0pf+0w
                            
                             time pfctl -t bogonsv6 -T add -f /etc/bogonsv6
                            0/122609 addresses added.
                            0.231u 0.079s 0:00.31 96.7%     208+182k 0+0io 0pf+0w
                            
                            

                            PS: It was still in this bad state but the commands still worked...

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                              maverick_slo @Trey
                              last edited by

                              I had similar result.

                              Hyperv, 4 cores.

                              Before the upgrade not a single issue wigh beta...

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                              • jimpJ
                                jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                                last edited by

                                OK, so at least we know it isn't the same bug coming back to haunt us, though that would have likely made tracking down the cause and resolution much easier.

                                From your earlier output, the pfctl commands getting hung up are dumping the state table contents.

                                Try each of the following, but no need to post the individual state output, just the timing:

                                $ pfctl -si | grep -A4 State
                                $ time pfctl -ss
                                $ time pfctl -vvss
                                

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                                  maverick_slo @jimp
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                                  State Table Total Rate
                                  current entries 1434
                                  searches 3714325 359.4/s
                                  inserts 138111 13.4/s
                                  removals 136676 13.2/s

                                  4.50 real 0.01 user 4.48 sys

                                  1.32 real 0.01 user 1.30 sys

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                                    Trey @jimp
                                    last edited by

                                    Okay, after a reboot the pftop page works again.

                                    CPU usage was back to none. Then a pfctl -ss was running long....

                                    After it ended I run:

                                    pfctl -si | grep -A4 State
                                    State Table                          Total             Rate
                                      current entries                     2407
                                      searches                          404293          546.3/s
                                      inserts                            20698           28.0/s
                                      removals                           18291           24.7/s
                                    
                                    time pfctl -ss
                                    0.141u 140.191s 2:20.52 99.8%   203+177k 0+0io 0pf+0w
                                    
                                    time pfctl -vvss
                                    0.157u 87.638s 1:28.08 99.6%    203+177k 0+0io 0pf+0w
                                    
                                    
                                    

                                    And perhaps these aliases add a lot of ipv4 and ipv6:

                                    Jun 15 20:21:31 filterdns 68338 Adding Action: pf table: Office365Server host: outlook.office365.com
                                    Jun 15 20:21:31 filterdns 68338 Adding Action: pf table: Office365Server host: outlook.office.com
                                    Jun 15 20:21:31 filterdns 68338 Adding Action: pf table: MailExternalServerIPs host: outlook.office365.com
                                    Jun 15 20:21:31 filterdns 68338 Adding Action: pf table: IcingaExternClients host: outlook.office365.com

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                                    • jimpJ
                                      jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
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                                      Hmm, it definitely shouldn't be taking that long to print out only 2400 states.

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                                        Trey @jimp
                                        last edited by

                                        Block bogon networks was now on before reboot and is still...

                                        pfctl shows up in top every now and then and uses a lot of cpu...

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                                        • jimpJ
                                          jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
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                                          It's not likely related to bogons or aliases/tables at this point, but something in the state table.

                                          I've started https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/12045 for this, and one of the other devs has a lead on a possible solution.

                                          We're still trying to find a way to replicate it locally yet, but no luck.

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                                          • jimpJ
                                            jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
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                                            OK I can't quite get up to the number of states you had with a quick and dirty test but I was able to get up to about 900 states and I definitely saw a slowdown.

                                            20-50 states: 0.01s
                                            300-450 states: 3s
                                            850 states: 20s

                                            I could easily see it degrading fast, need more data points but that certainly appears to be significant growth. The FreeBSD commit I linked in the Redmine above mentions factorial time (O(N!)) which would be quite bad in terms of efficiency.

                                            We're working on getting a fix into a new build, it should be available soon.

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