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    • chudakC
      chudak @DaddyGo
      last edited by

      @daddygo said in "pcscd PC/SC Smart Card Daemon" ?:

      https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=pcscd&sektion=8&manpath=freebsd-release-ports

      Thx !
      Why all of the sudden it's exposed in 2.5.0 ?

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      • DaddyGoD
        DaddyGo @chudak
        last edited by

        @chudak said in "pcscd PC/SC Smart Card Daemon" ?:

        Why all of the sudden it's exposed in 2.5.0 ?

        That's a good question because it has been around for a long time:
        https://www.freshports.org/devel/pcsc-lite

        Maybe something new with SD cards + API(s) will be introduced to it

        Cats bury it so they can't see it!
        (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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        • viktor_gV
          viktor_g Netgate
          last edited by

          support for PKCS#11 authentication (e.g. hardware tokens such as Yubikey) for IPsec: https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/9878

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          • DaddyGoD
            DaddyGo @viktor_g
            last edited by

            @viktor_g said in "pcscd PC/SC Smart Card Daemon" ?:

            e.g. hardware tokens such as Yubikey

            Oh that's great

            Cats bury it so they can't see it!
            (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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            • chudakC
              chudak @viktor_g
              last edited by

              @viktor_g said in "pcscd PC/SC Smart Card Daemon" ?:

              support for PKCS#11 authentication (e.g. hardware tokens such as Yubikey) for IPsec: https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/9878

              Ok makes sense, thx !

              Is there a reason to keep it on and what the best way to disable it ?

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                Izaac
                last edited by

                @chudak

                Anybody can shed light?

                NetGate decided that despite:

                • the fact that they don't ship a piece of hardware with such an inerface;
                • that almost no one uses smartcards for this purpose;
                • the Yubikeys are better handed by a different interface;
                • that using a Yubikey for this kind of authentication, i.e. leaving it plugged into your piece of network hardware at all times, pretty much undermines its security model;
                • would be entirely more appropriate as a package

                it would make sense to have this privileged code running at all times on some of the most memory and processor constrained hardware, without any ability to configure or even disable it, and to plunge the entire system into an error state if should happen to not be running.

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                  anthonys @Izaac
                  last edited by anthonys

                  @izaac In the face of it also having a memory leak
                  https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/12095
                  which took my SG-1100 to 92% RAM, I have disabled
                  4d9f1370-ba8b-4648-9e51-5347c04a268c-image.png

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                    mw
                    last edited by mw

                    You can stop the pcscd service from starting by editing your /etc/rc.bootup file.

                    Look for the following:

                    /* pcscd daemon must be started before IPsec */
                    echo "Starting PC/SC Smart Card Services...";
                    mwexec_bg("/usr/local/sbin/pcscd");
                    echo "done.\n";
                    

                    Comment out the startup code, like this:

                    /* pcscd daemon must be started before IPsec */
                    /*
                    echo "Starting PC/SC Smart Card Services...";
                    mwexec_bg("/usr/local/sbin/pcscd");
                    echo "done.\n";
                    */
                    

                    This code was added in this revision.

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                    • chudakC
                      chudak @mw
                      last edited by

                      @mw said in "pcscd PC/SC Smart Card Daemon" ?:

                      This code was added in

                      That's useful, thx

                      Wonder why it's enabled by default ?!

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                      • jimpJ
                        jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                        last edited by

                        It won't be enabled by default for long:

                        https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/11933

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                          psp @mw
                          last edited by

                          @mw said in "pcscd PC/SC Smart Card Daemon" ?:

                          Comment out the startup code, like this:

                          Just for info, commenting out the startup code and using IPSec, logs are filled up by these errors:
                          -- Jul 20 09:28:46 charon 78779 02[CFG] error in C_WaitForSlotEvent: GENERAL_ERROR

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                            mw @psp
                            last edited by

                            @psp Thanks for the heads up. I don't currently make use of IPsec so didn't think about the consequences.

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                            • viktor_gV
                              viktor_g Netgate
                              last edited by

                              You can use 299.diff patch on 21.05/2.5.2

                              after applying you can disable pcscd on the VPN/ IPsec / Advanced Settings page:
                              Screenshot from 2021-07-21 11-21-38.png

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                              • chudakC
                                chudak @viktor_g
                                last edited by

                                @viktor_g said in "pcscd PC/SC Smart Card Daemon" ?:

                                You can use 299.diff patch on 21.05/2.5.2

                                after applying you can disable pcscd on the VPN/ IPsec / Advanced Settings page:
                                Screenshot from 2021-07-21 11-21-38.png

                                I applied the patch and enabled PKCS#11 Support (which I don't use BTW)

                                Saw the service go red and then green again, I guess restarted.

                                db1ba327-76a5-4825-a6da-1d7df16109c3-image.png

                                a1707664-e498-41aa-9ac6-82e65828a81e-image.png

                                I thought the service would be completely removed and not sure what exactly changed ?

                                Thx

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                                • jimpJ
                                  jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                                  last edited by

                                  If you don't want it and don't use it, why did you go out of your way to enable it?

                                  It's off by default which is what you'll want. After applying the patch, leave the box unchecked and then reboot.

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                                  • chudakC
                                    chudak @jimp
                                    last edited by

                                    @jimp said in "pcscd PC/SC Smart Card Daemon" ?:

                                    If you don't want it and don't use it, why did you go out of your way to enable it?

                                    See the initial post above, I am still trying to get rid of it exactly because I don't use it :)

                                    It's off by default which is what you'll want. After applying the patch, leave the box unchecked and then reboot.

                                    I did that and still see the red "pcscd PC/SC Smart Card Daemon" in the Service Status. Is it expected? If the answer is yes, why ?

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                                    • jimpJ
                                      jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                                      last edited by

                                      The service is still there/defined but disabled. Several other services work the same way. Though it may not take much to hide it in this case. It's not a problem.

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                                      • chudakC
                                        chudak @jimp
                                        last edited by

                                        @jimp said in "pcscd PC/SC Smart Card Daemon" ?:

                                        The service is still there/defined but disabled. Several other services work the same way. Though it may not take much to hide it in this case. It's not a problem.

                                        OK I take that and thank you!

                                        Before it was not possible to disable it.

                                        It's just odd to see something disabled if you don't use it and even know where it's coming from.

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                                        • chudakC
                                          chudak @jimp
                                          last edited by

                                          @jimp

                                          To hide it - is it something that can be done locally?

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                                          • DaddyGoD
                                            DaddyGo @chudak
                                            last edited by

                                            @chudak said in "pcscd PC/SC Smart Card Daemon" ?:

                                            To hide it - is it something that can be done locally?

                                            We, for example, are not as bothered by this as you are ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                            Cats bury it so they can't see it!
                                            (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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