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    "pcscd PC/SC Smart Card Daemon" ?

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    • DaddyGoD
      DaddyGo @viktor_g
      last edited by

      @viktor_g said in "pcscd PC/SC Smart Card Daemon" ?:

      e.g. hardware tokens such as Yubikey

      Oh that's great

      Cats bury it so they can't see it!
      (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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      • chudakC
        chudak @viktor_g
        last edited by

        @viktor_g said in "pcscd PC/SC Smart Card Daemon" ?:

        support for PKCS#11 authentication (e.g. hardware tokens such as Yubikey) for IPsec: https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/9878

        Ok makes sense, thx !

        Is there a reason to keep it on and what the best way to disable it ?

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          Izaac
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          @chudak

          Anybody can shed light?

          NetGate decided that despite:

          • the fact that they don't ship a piece of hardware with such an inerface;
          • that almost no one uses smartcards for this purpose;
          • the Yubikeys are better handed by a different interface;
          • that using a Yubikey for this kind of authentication, i.e. leaving it plugged into your piece of network hardware at all times, pretty much undermines its security model;
          • would be entirely more appropriate as a package

          it would make sense to have this privileged code running at all times on some of the most memory and processor constrained hardware, without any ability to configure or even disable it, and to plunge the entire system into an error state if should happen to not be running.

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            anthonys @Izaac
            last edited by anthonys

            @izaac In the face of it also having a memory leak
            https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/12095
            which took my SG-1100 to 92% RAM, I have disabled
            4d9f1370-ba8b-4648-9e51-5347c04a268c-image.png

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              mw
              last edited by mw

              You can stop the pcscd service from starting by editing your /etc/rc.bootup file.

              Look for the following:

              /* pcscd daemon must be started before IPsec */
              echo "Starting PC/SC Smart Card Services...";
              mwexec_bg("/usr/local/sbin/pcscd");
              echo "done.\n";
              

              Comment out the startup code, like this:

              /* pcscd daemon must be started before IPsec */
              /*
              echo "Starting PC/SC Smart Card Services...";
              mwexec_bg("/usr/local/sbin/pcscd");
              echo "done.\n";
              */
              

              This code was added in this revision.

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              • chudakC
                chudak @mw
                last edited by

                @mw said in "pcscd PC/SC Smart Card Daemon" ?:

                This code was added in

                That's useful, thx

                Wonder why it's enabled by default ?!

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                • jimpJ
                  jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                  last edited by

                  It won't be enabled by default for long:

                  https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/11933

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                    psp @mw
                    last edited by

                    @mw said in "pcscd PC/SC Smart Card Daemon" ?:

                    Comment out the startup code, like this:

                    Just for info, commenting out the startup code and using IPSec, logs are filled up by these errors:
                    -- Jul 20 09:28:46 charon 78779 02[CFG] error in C_WaitForSlotEvent: GENERAL_ERROR

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                      mw @psp
                      last edited by

                      @psp Thanks for the heads up. I don't currently make use of IPsec so didn't think about the consequences.

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                      • viktor_gV
                        viktor_g Netgate
                        last edited by

                        You can use 299.diff patch on 21.05/2.5.2

                        after applying you can disable pcscd on the VPN/ IPsec / Advanced Settings page:
                        Screenshot from 2021-07-21 11-21-38.png

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                        • chudakC
                          chudak @viktor_g
                          last edited by

                          @viktor_g said in "pcscd PC/SC Smart Card Daemon" ?:

                          You can use 299.diff patch on 21.05/2.5.2

                          after applying you can disable pcscd on the VPN/ IPsec / Advanced Settings page:
                          Screenshot from 2021-07-21 11-21-38.png

                          I applied the patch and enabled PKCS#11 Support (which I don't use BTW)

                          Saw the service go red and then green again, I guess restarted.

                          db1ba327-76a5-4825-a6da-1d7df16109c3-image.png

                          a1707664-e498-41aa-9ac6-82e65828a81e-image.png

                          I thought the service would be completely removed and not sure what exactly changed ?

                          Thx

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                          • jimpJ
                            jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                            last edited by

                            If you don't want it and don't use it, why did you go out of your way to enable it?

                            It's off by default which is what you'll want. After applying the patch, leave the box unchecked and then reboot.

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                            • chudakC
                              chudak @jimp
                              last edited by

                              @jimp said in "pcscd PC/SC Smart Card Daemon" ?:

                              If you don't want it and don't use it, why did you go out of your way to enable it?

                              See the initial post above, I am still trying to get rid of it exactly because I don't use it :)

                              It's off by default which is what you'll want. After applying the patch, leave the box unchecked and then reboot.

                              I did that and still see the red "pcscd PC/SC Smart Card Daemon" in the Service Status. Is it expected? If the answer is yes, why ?

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                              • jimpJ
                                jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                                last edited by

                                The service is still there/defined but disabled. Several other services work the same way. Though it may not take much to hide it in this case. It's not a problem.

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                                • chudakC
                                  chudak @jimp
                                  last edited by

                                  @jimp said in "pcscd PC/SC Smart Card Daemon" ?:

                                  The service is still there/defined but disabled. Several other services work the same way. Though it may not take much to hide it in this case. It's not a problem.

                                  OK I take that and thank you!

                                  Before it was not possible to disable it.

                                  It's just odd to see something disabled if you don't use it and even know where it's coming from.

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                                  • chudakC
                                    chudak @jimp
                                    last edited by

                                    @jimp

                                    To hide it - is it something that can be done locally?

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                                    • DaddyGoD
                                      DaddyGo @chudak
                                      last edited by

                                      @chudak said in "pcscd PC/SC Smart Card Daemon" ?:

                                      To hide it - is it something that can be done locally?

                                      We, for example, are not as bothered by this as you are ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                      Cats bury it so they can't see it!
                                      (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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                                      • jimpJ
                                        jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                                        last edited by

                                        I already added a note to the Redmine stating we'll need to hide the service. I'm not certain how long that might take or how much effort it will be. Probably not much but don't quote me on that.

                                        It is cosmetic only, it doesn't hurt anything. Not many people sit on the service status screen so it doesn't matter. If it bothers you in the widget you can hide it in the widget (hit the wrench in the titlebar of the service status widget, scroll down, uncheck it, save.)

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                                          Izaac @DaddyGo
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                                          @daddygo I guess you've never been through a security audit. Allow me to give you a sneak peak:
                                          Some Overseas Checklist Drone: "Why is this red error on your firewall appliance configuration evidence?"
                                          Overworked Administrator: "That feature is disabled."
                                          Drone: "Why do you not use this feature of your firewall appliance?"
                                          Admin: "Because we do not use smartcards as part of our authentication process."
                                          Drone: "Why do you not use smartcards as part of your authentication process?"
                                          Admin: "Because there is no hardware support for it and, in this context, it offers no advantages and makes no sense."
                                          Drone: "I will be leaving this as an open issue for the configuration of your firewall appliance. Enabling all features for full protection from your firewall appliance is needful."

                                          What could (or should) the green/red little icon in the 'Service Status' widget represent? Conformity to the configuration, e.g. if pcscd is not enabled, green shows it correctly stopped and red indicates an error state in which it is operating.

                                          Assuming that doesn't happen, here's a horrifying patch to make it disappear and prevent you from having to "please to be doing" anything:

                                          --- a/usr/local/www/widgets/widgets/services_status.widget.php    2021-05-28 07:35:21.000000000 -0400
                                          +++ b/usr/local/www/widgets/widgets/services_status.widget.php   2021-07-28 08:44:17.790560000 -0400
                                          @@ -31,6 +31,11 @@
                                           
                                           $services = get_services();
                                           
                                          +// horrifying patch for papering over pcscd
                                          +if ($pewpew = array_search('pcscd', array_column($services, 'name'))) {
                                          +       array_splice($services, $pewpew, 1);
                                          +}
                                          +
                                           $numsvcs = count($services);
                                           
                                           for ($idx=0; $idx<$numsvcs; $idx++) {
                                          
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                                          • johnpozJ
                                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Izaac
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                                            @izaac Oh man that is so true! ;) Sad but true!!

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