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      bpl294 @stephenw10
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      @stephenw10 yes:

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        bpl294 @stephenw10
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        @stephenw10 support from Decisio metioned the following as well:

        "Try to add the following to loader.conf.local hw.uart.console="io:0x3f8,br:115200" "

        Would this get added to the loader.conf.local after install on a donor system? or can it be done pre-install?

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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          You could set that at the loader prompt before it boots.

          OK> set hw.uart.console="io:0x3f8,br:115200"
          OK> boot
          

          You could add it to loader.conf.local on the other system before moving is across.

          That was the only line we saw which looked like it could be doing anything so it's certainly worth trying. Those are the default com1 values though.
          Having read through the commits it might be setting it back to the default values after the detection quirks that were added for earlier EPYC systems were interfering.

          Steve

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            bpl294 @stephenw10
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            @stephenw10 that did the trick!! Thanks alot man!!

            So the loader.conf.local file wouldn't be removed or changed during updates or anything right?

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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              Ah, nice. Interesting that does anything.

              Yes, that will be retained across updates.

              Steve

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                bpl294 @stephenw10
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                @stephenw10 One more thing, the cpu is being detected in PFSense as 2 cache groups x2cores. could this cause any performance impact? and is there a way to define what type of cores they are?

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                  That's just how the CPU/BIOS reports it. I wouldn't expect it to make any difference.

                  More concerning is the fact it shows as running at 1200MHz. Does it ever rise from that?

                  You might need to enable powerd if you haven't already. Assuming there is a driver to support switching it.

                  Steve

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                    bpl294 @stephenw10
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                    @stephenw10 Yea that was my other concern, it does not. If i disable PowerD, running " sysctl dev.cpu.0.freq " shows 2100. But with PowerD it stays at 1200 and that's with running multiple speed tests at gigabit over wireguard and not.

                    So i have disabled PowerD for now as the CPU temp is pretty steady at about 115 Fahrenheit.

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                      Hmm, well if it changes when you enable it that shows it can set the frequency.
                      What profile did you use? Hi-Adaptive is usually the best to use.
                      It doesn't make a huge amount of difference to power consumption on modern CPUs anyway though.

                      Steve

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                        bpl294 @stephenw10
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                        @stephenw10 I tried it Hi-Adaptive and Maximum, both stayed at 1200.

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                          Hmm, I mean there is a possibility that CPU loading never gets high enough to start ramping up. Or that it's not detecting the loading correctly.

                          Try running:

                          sysctl -a | grep freq
                          

                          So you see cpu frequency levels shown?

                          If so you can try killing powerd and setting the level manually.

                          Steve

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                            bpl294 @stephenw10
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                            @stephenw10 it returns the following:

                            Would the command to set it manually be " set dev.cpu.0.freq_levels=2100/1890" ?

                            [2.6.0-DEVELOPMENT][root@core.sycamore]/root: sysctl -a | grep freq
                            kern.timecounter.tc.ACPI-fast.frequency: 3579545
                            kern.timecounter.tc.i8254.frequency: 1193182
                            kern.timecounter.tc.HPET.frequency: 14318180
                            kern.timecounter.tc.TSC.frequency: 2096114517
                            kern.ntp_pll.time_freq: 85052405328768
                            kern.ntp_pll.pps_freq: 89169788928000
                            device  cpufreq
                            kern.eventtimer.et.i8254.frequency: 1193182
                            kern.eventtimer.et.RTC.frequency: 32768
                            kern.eventtimer.et.HPET2.frequency: 14318180
                            kern.eventtimer.et.HPET1.frequency: 14318180
                            kern.eventtimer.et.HPET.frequency: 14318180
                            kern.eventtimer.et.LAPIC.frequency: 49907470
                            kern.acct_chkfreq: 15
                            net.inet.sctp.sack_freq: 2
                            debug.cpufreq.verbose: 0
                            debug.cpufreq.lowest: 0
                            debug.uart_poll_freq: 50
                            machdep.tsc_freq: 2096114517
                            machdep.i8254_freq: 1193182
                            machdep.acpi_timer_freq: 3579545
                            dev.cpufreq.0.%parent: cpu0
                            dev.cpufreq.0.%pnpinfo:
                            dev.cpufreq.0.%location:
                            dev.cpufreq.0.%driver: cpufreq
                            dev.cpufreq.0.%desc:
                            dev.cpufreq.%parent:
                            dev.hwpstate.0.freq_settings: 2100/1890 1700/1445 1200/990
                            dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 2100/1890 1700/1445 1200/990
                            dev.cpu.0.freq: 2100
                            
                            
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                            • stephenw10S
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                              Ah, OK. Looks like it's working.

                              Kill the powerd process then:

                              sysctl dev.cpu.0.freq=1700
                              

                              Or whichever speed you want.
                              The second number there is meant to be power consumption in mW. But I've always found it to be somewhat random!

                              Steve

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                                bpl294 @stephenw10
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                                @stephenw10 that command did change the freq in the console:

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                  Then maybe your test simply didn't load up the CPU enough.

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                                    bpl294 @stephenw10
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                                    @stephenw10 So when i do a speed test over a WG interface it spikes the CPU up to 80% when the PowerD is enabled and at 1200mhz and it doesn't increase the freq. Is the CPU spiking that high good enough to say to increase the freq?

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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                      Yeah, 80% should be plenty high enough in highadaptive mode.

                                      I would suggest powerd is not accurately reading the loading in that case. I'm not sure there's anything we can do about that.

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                                        bpl294 @stephenw10
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                                          bpl294 @stephenw10
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                                          @stephenw10 It seems as though that powerd isnt able to distinguish the option in its config. Because it is only using the option that i set for "Unknown Power"

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                                          This results in the cpu running in hi-adaptive mode. And i did notice the CPU dropped down to 1700 at one point. If i set that to Minimum, then it stays at 1200mhz. I am using the Apcupsd package. Not sure if they are communicating well.

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                                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                            Ah, that's probably OK then. The defaults we yuse are set hiadaptive for all three. It depends what the BIOS is reporting which is not reliable.
                                            Powerd and apcupsd are not connected.

                                            Steve

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